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My home built metal DDR pad (Part IV)
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5000. PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 7:20 am    Post subject: Transparent congratulations Reply with quote

Just a little note of Congratulations to slvrshdw for making the 5,000th post in this thread. Perhaps he can celebrate by getting himself some vowels.
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5001. PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 12:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Transparent congratulations Reply with quote

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Just a little note of Congratulations to slvrshdw for making the 5,000th post in this thread. Perhaps he can celebrate by getting himself some vowels.


Aren't you the 5,000th post? *confused*
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The post number in a thread starts at 0. So slvr got the actually 5000th, while Heff got the 5000 GET.
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5003. PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 12:42 pm    Post subject: Predictions for next 5,000 posts... Reply with quote

HitokiriX wrote:
Heffenfeffer wrote:
Just a little note of Congratulations to slvrshdw for making the 5,000th post in this thread. Perhaps he can celebrate by getting himself some vowels.


Aren't you the 5,000th post? *confused*


Not quite - the very first post in this thread is post #0 - so the 5,000th post is actually post #4,999. Thus, I'm post 5,001. Of course, I can claim to have had the 5,000th reply.

Here's to 5,000 more! Huzzah for homemade controllers!
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5004. PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Punkly Daft wrote:
yah - i'd have to agree with gecko. Just go corded. It's much less hassle than trying to install a wireless transmitter, battery pack, etc. Plus, the tutorials only deal with wired pads, so don't go too far away from the original designs.
Hey, it's finally letting me post again! This whole one post per day thing is rather silly.

Anyway, the reason I was intending to go with the wireless is because that's what the control circuit for the soft pad I just tore up is. It's already got the wireless transmitter built in. As far as differing from the tutorials I've seen, well, see for yourself:


This is an image of the circuit that I pulled out and appropriately labelled. From the looks of it, it's extremely similarly structured to the circuits I've seen from from wired soft pads that people have torn up.

As far as the battery problem, it's not something I'm too concerned about. I had about 50 hours of gameplay on the first set of batteries that I installed. Since there's no moving parts, it doesn't drain power very quickly. However, the circuit I stole does have an input for a 3V DC jack incase I want to give it direct power.

In regards to lag time, when my soft pad was still working I didn't notice too much of a problem. But then again, I was still playing Light mode. I'm getting up to being able to handle some songs on Heavy. I'd like to be able to use things I already have in order to save some money given that I'm a poor college student and all. But perhaps I should go with a wire instead... hmm...
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5005. PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe I'm thinking of the wrong kind of lag, but I think if you experience pad lag, you can adjust the game's timing such that you don't notice it. Oh, and the "1 reply per day trick" was actually per my suggestion. E15.gif (The trick is, in just about every other forum, we have complete morons constantly signing up and spamming stupidity, had a moderate "attack" of some crackheads from another website, etc. It sucks because the folks who start in this thread aren't the moronic spammers we're trying to silence. AFAIK you can still send PMs just fine, though.)
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5006. PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 7:26 pm    Post subject: wireless pad Reply with quote

VoijaRisa,
If you already have the wireless controll, then by all means use it. However, a suggestion, I would make sure that if you need to you can easily swap out the board whether because the wireless lag gets annoying or the board fries. In your case I hope it works out well. You may have a better board version than I had and it doesn't lag as badly. I was just speaking from my experience with one. I would expect that it would get you throught light and standard, but eventually you will probably need the accuracy of a wired pad. Luckily, they're only $20 and you can just swap the board out (if you decide you need to).
Yes, you are correct in saying that the wiring is the same. They were just saying not to deviate from the other plans because it's been tried and trued. However, if no one deviated we wouldn't have different versions of pads. I deviated by having a pad that I can get to the contacts under my arrows in one second and also have a pad that breaks apart in three pieces for easy traveling in small cars. You could have the first functional wireless pad. Time will tell. At any rate, enjoy the build and new pad when you're done.

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geckoinc99, intresting to hear that you have a pad that is easily dissassemblable. I was considering trying to create a way to do something similar given that my pad will probably need to be travelling with me between home and college fairly frequently and I'm reliant upon space in other people's cars. Do you happen to have any pictures or plans that I might see?
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Wow that sounds really interesting! How did you get the contacts to stay connected even when you broke it up? And the quick dissassembly design looks cool too. It would be awesome if you could show these designs online!
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Yeah, or even just pictures. It osunds interesting
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5010. PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 9:15 pm    Post subject: Break Apart pad Reply with quote

Hey group,
Glad to hear that some are interested in my break apart pad (Yeah! Someone's interested in one of my ideas! Time to contribute!). I apologize that it's going to be a little while before I can get pictures up for you (wife and I are going to Ft. Worth, TX for a week visiting friends). Basically, all you do is divide the board long two lines (from left to right) so that one piece has back platform and back arrow with two non arrow squares, then another piece has left and right arrow with middle non arrow squares, then the last piece has the up arrow and two nonfunctional arrows and top control plate (if you mounted the buttons on the board). I realize a picture would help with this and I'll get to that as soon as I can. Then, you just make plugs for the wires at the break away points so that you can unplug them when you need to. Then you just hold the pieces together with the largest mending brackets that your pad will accomodate. Screw it to the sides so it spans across the break. That's about it.

Now is this design perfect? No, for a short answer. Because the base is cut, there will be a small amount of flex at the joints. The thicker the mending brackets the better this will be. Also, it might not flex much if you have a hard floor (I have carpet and it flexes a slight amount). Also, this design can't use the corner brackets, so if you have to have those (I didn't want them) it won't work. At the present moment, Stoli's design is the only one that would work with this with a modification to the outside border (since it has to be in sections also). My arrows just float, meaning that I have my top plexing, graphic, bottom plexi, and metal contact strips bolted together so they don't separate and then just set this donw in the well. Since everything else is raised and all the mending strip contacts are on the outside edge (my pad is a Riptide pad mostly), I never have a problem with the square popping out during play. Now, the floating arrow is a problem if you pick up the pad, but since I don't move them that much it's not a big deal to me, especially since I can just lift the arrow out to get to the inside for tweaking. However, Stoli's design would work well if you have to pick the pad up often.

Now, with this difference how does the pad play? As far as I'm concerned very well. I'm no master, but I'm up to 8-9 footers and am just now taking on 10 footers (with a marginal success). I guess the best rating I can give you is that I almost had a AA on Rhythm and Police with 43 greats, 1 good (my fault) and the rest perfects. I hardly notice the flex and don't see it as getting in the way. By flex, I mean it moves a few millimeters (not much, just not as solid). Despite the flex, this design gives you a very decent pad (I think just as good as others) but will break down into three pieces that will take up about 3 feet by 2 feet by 1 foot of space, easily put in any small car.

My design is not perfect, and there may be better ways of doing it, but this was what I came up with and is easily accomplished by anyone who's building a pad. Anyone with other ideas are welcome to submit them. I will eventually get something written up on this for those curious about it. Hopefully this posting will give you enough to work with. As always, I'm open to questions. Happy pad building!

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I'm curious as to what kinds of "plugs" you used at the joints? Did you use Cat5 cable and just use outlets and the crimpers for that?

I like your idea overall and think I might be trying to do something like this. I know the poor girl that gives me a ride to school would appreciate me not having such a funny shaped thing in her car all the time. E1.gif
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5012. PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

im just wonderin do u have to have foam core in the arrows or can it be just weather strippind cuz im gonna do ddrhomepads designt but do riptides designs with the arrow brakets so i avoid the risk of shorts
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gca4evtc1 wrote:
im just wonderin do u have to have foam core in the arrows or can it be just weather strippind cuz im gonna do ddrhomepads designt but do riptides designs with the arrow brakets so i avoid the risk of shorts


Weather stripping is all you need.
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5014. PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 9:01 pm    Post subject: Beatpad Controller Mod Reply with quote

Greetings,

I just built two more pads to give as Christmas gifts and while shopping for supplies, I noticed that Best Buy does not carry the Mad Catz Retro controllers any more. So, I used the Beatpad Controllers instead. They cost more ($20 per) but as many have stated, they are much easier to work with. I put some pics of the new pads on my site and also updated some of the step by step instructions. Here is a pic of one of the new pads with the new controller. I added two buttons (found at Radio Shack) for the "Select" and "Start" buttons on the controller.



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Hey! In your opinion, which is more like the arcade, ddrhomepad/stoli pad or riptide's pad. Also, are there any homepad instructions that feature recessed arrows.
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Hey I have a quick question. Why do you need to solder the wires to the ground switch also?? What does it do?? everyone says solder the wires to the ground switch but i dont know what it does. E4.gif




Also, for riptides videos. How come my bit torrent wont load them? I keep getting the same 'ol error.

Sry to interrupt your question Marvel627.
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Hashit0k0 ^.^ ▶◀ wrote:
Hey I have a quick question. Why do you need to solder the wires to the ground switch also?? What does it do?? everyone says solder the wires to the ground switch but i dont know what it does. E4.gif


Each arrow is a simple on/off switch. When you step on the arrow, you turn it on by closing a circuit. Think of it like hooking up a small light bulb to a battery. You can connect the + terminal of the battery to the bulb but the light won't turn on until you hook up the - as well. When you hook up the - you are closing the circuit. Same thing happens when you turn a light switch on in your home.

By soldering all the "common" wires on your pad to the "common" connection on the controller circuit board, you are creating a complete circuit for each arrow. Then, when you step on an arrow, you "close" the circuit.

If you still don't understand, don't worry about it, just do it! Trust Us.

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Stoli, you rock E1.gif

I am making your design and I am using the same madkatz pad for the controll box. Nice placing E1.gif I'm gonna use that now E1.gif

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Update (12/15/2005): The Fellowes mouse pad that Target sells is much thinner now. I found one at Staples for $4.00 that was the right thickness.

Nice, a new staples just opened by me E1.gif
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Ah thank you very much!!! I get it now. I was just a little confused before. Also does n e one know how to solve my problem with the ripide videos???

This is the error: ERROR Problem connecting to tracker - <urlopen error (10060, "Operation timed Out")
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