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260. PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My legs are a little too short to effectively bar hug on an entire song.

However, on a few catas that require stamina (something I don't have yet), I'll bar hug on part of it. Either that or I'll use it for balance on some crossovers or spins to make sure I don't do a faceplant into the machine or the floor.

And, usually on the songs I know I can do without bar, I end up doing worse when bar hugging.
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261. PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NERD ALERT

"If you bar rape, you are not exerting your full mass onto the pads. Therefore, there is a lower chance of fcuking up the pads due to too much force being applied. F=ma. If m decreses and a is constant, F decreases. (Yes fellow maths nerds, its not the whole story)"
True/false? I could do some straightforward calculations to explain in more detail, but quite frankly, I can't be arsed. E15.gif
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262. PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it'll have more to do with how hard you step. A no-bar player stepping lightly is going to do less damage to the pads than a bar player slamming their foot down with every step...and I see a lot of bar players do that. Since using the bar conserves energy, the player will have more leftover energy to apply extra force to the panels.
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263. PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For those who use it for better PA competitively or expert ITG players, that's fine. But if you really need a bar for anything lower than a 10 or really hard 9 footer, that's pretty sad...I just dont see how it's possible to make it any easier on steps that slow.
And about it doing less damage to the pads, I dont really thinks that's an issue...it's not hard to avoid stomping
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264. PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i hayt beggingers that use the bar

i use it for skips/maxes, paranioas etc.
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265. PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThemsAllTook wrote:
HyDrA wrote:
on itg bar = required


I'm pretty sure everything on ITG that has been passed with the bar has been passed without it, with the exception of the songs almost no one has played yet, like VerTex^2.

It certainly does come in handy for 12s and 13s, though.
This is all true, but I don't think it's completely impossible to get a good percentage on a 12 or 13 song without the bar. Yes, it's extremely hard, so I think it's good to get used to the song with the bar until you have the guts to go without it. E7.gif

Also, the bar is great for countless tricks in freestyling. E7.gif
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266. PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

True it is like training wheels
but what i use it for
is for doing fun stuff as in...

when i'm doing R3 during in the half way
i go around the back of the machine
and jump over it laugh.gif

oh well i have nothing else to do
when i have done all the songs
on the highest difficultes
and have AAA's 31 songs
got nothing to do
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267. PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Bar Raping is okies as long as you don't start off Bar Raping. If you start off a song with Bar Rape then you are a really huge n00b.

I sweat to god, I saw some 13 year old Bar Rape Broken My Heart. I wanted to laugh, yet at the same time I wanted to cry.
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268. PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

THOU SHALL NOT RAPE THY BAR!!!!!!! devil.gif
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269. PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow everyone here seem so pathetic, its sad.
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270. PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm just wondering, why do people get mad when someone "bar rapes", maybe they like to use the bar. Why the hell would you get mad if u see someone use the bar?
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271. PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 7:17 pm    Post subject: like Reply with quote

because they look retarted
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272. PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you seen some of the videos of people playing with no bar? it looks way more retarded then ones playing with bar, in my opinion.
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273. PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bars suck.

I only use bars to freestyle. E4.gif
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274. PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

-Afronova- wrote:
I'm just wondering, why do people get mad when someone "bar rapes", maybe they like to use the bar. Why the hell would you get mad if u see someone use the bar?


its probably because they want to use the bar but people told them when they first started that it was a bad thing to use

i know thats what happened with me. luckily i just ignored people after a while and started using the bar. its so dumb when people get worked up over people using the bar when its made available for everybody!
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275. PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

untill last week... or the week before i never played with the bar on anything 9 or lower, but i thought, "if all the itg players are doing it now, why shouldn't i?"... so i used it... come to find out i now can play on X3 solo and AA almost anything i play now.. even Accross the nightmare heavy X1.5. I don't need it but i use it now on eveything even Butterfly heavy X3.. and i got 9 greats a new record for me at least.

god.... i love that bar now
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276. PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I make bar-raping look really good =)

Bar-raping is good for PA, along with 3X mod(applies for 95-158 BPM) and solo.

In a tournament, the best PA wins. Bar use or not doesn't matter. Both has its weakness, depending on how you play.
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277. PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HT wrote:
Bar-raping is good for PA


I don't know why, but my PA is really shitty when I use the bar. I'll get like two or three times as many Greats as if I didn't use it. That's the sole reason I don't use the bar. A lot of people tell me how their PA gets a lot better when bar-raping...I guess I'm just weird.
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278. PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^no no no, you're not weird. It's different for everyone. Some people like you do better without the bar. That's perfectly fine. I just developed a skill with the bar, that's all.
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279. PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read the title and thought is was going to about freestyling while using the bar..

I know I use the bar when I free style...Slide under it and jump back onto the pad.
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