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My home built metal DDR pad (Part IV)
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HitokiriX
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Question: Has anyone found out where to buy the thin, dense foam material that you find under the manufactured metal pads? It's used to keep the pad from sliding and also to protect wooden floors from the metal underside. I'd like to put that under my homemade pad as well, but so far I've come up short in finding the material anywhere.

Maybe a specific name is what I'm missing? So far I've tried googling stuff like "dense foam" or "thin foam material". Obviously searches as general as that aren't gonna get me far.
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alright i just tore apart my RO ITG Soft pad cause it broke and i got the control board to make my homemade pad. however i cant find instuctions on how to solder a dance pad control board. does GND mean ground wire? and theres two right and down wires. theres B-down D-down and B-right and D-right. which one should be soldered? when i solder the ground wire do i have to solder any direction arrows to the ground wire?
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about the lexan--
i got a 2'x4' section of some strong plexiglass..(think it was lucite)
it cost me $35 so not cheap!...but it was 1/4" thick
mine broke in my pad, BUT i only used 1 piece and NO center support

about the foam--
your best bet would be the dense foam for excercise mats (dont know
the exact name)

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get some pics for me, ill help E1.gif (and/or AIM)
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Ok, I think i have some cubons for home depot so it wont be as much. I'm planning on building Stoli's pad, so, 2 pieces will be better than 1, correct? I wont be stomping really hard on it, but it will be a little strong. I'm assuming Lucite will be fine, correct?
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Think it would be possible to cut the bottom from a madcatz soft pad and use that?
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if your building stoli's (thin) pad, you probably wont have a problem because its so thin
i liked my riptide based model because its more durable and more realistic.
the thing is that it has a big gap in the center, so the plex bends

if you get a thick (like 1/4" plex, lucite probably) you should be fine with 1 piece. you might want to get some stonger stuff if you plan on 1 sheet though

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Think it would be possible to cut the bottom from a madcatz soft pad and use that?

you mean the grippy stuff on the bottom?...or the sensor sheet?

because ive used the bottom grippy foam stuff on mine (staple gun), BUT it slides a bit; but its better than bare wood if you are concerned

the sensor sheet wont work, first of all, its too thin, and will rip real easy
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Ok, I think i have some cubons for home depot so it wont be as much. I'm planning on building Stoli's pad, so, 2 pieces will be better than 1, correct? I wont be stomping really hard on it, but it will be a little strong. I'm assuming Lucite will be fine, correct?


If you're building Stoli's pad and using Home Depot acrylic, watch out. I bought some HD acrylic called "Optix" (20x stronger than glass) and used two pieces of 3/32" for my arrow panels. however, i found out that in two weeks, the arrow panels began to have cracks by the screws. Now, one corner piece of my down arrow has completely broken off, and there are multiple cracks in the up, right, and down arrows. I plan on going back to HD and buying true Lexan. As a reference, I'm ~150 pounds and generally play in socks. However, i think most of the cracks were made when i stomped a little bit too hard or played flat-footed for a while.
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Think it would be possible to cut the bottom from a madcatz soft pad and use that?

you mean the grippy stuff on the bottom?...or the sensor sheet?

because ive used the bottom grippy foam stuff on mine (staple gun), BUT it slides a bit; but its better than bare wood if you are concerned

the sensor sheet wont work, first of all, its too thin, and will rip real easy


I mean the bottom grippy foam stuff, but now that I think about it the madcatz bottom surface isn't actually too grippy. The more high end soft pads have good grip stuff.

Grr...it's probably pretty easy and cheap to find, but I'm not looking the right places. Maybe some real assistance at home depot is what I need.
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Grr...it's probably pretty easy and cheap to find, but I'm not looking the right places. Maybe some real assistance at home depot is what I need.



They won't know, and most places won't. But I was very happy to find some great non-slip rubber mat at the local hard ware store (Menards). 2 x 2 feet square, about 10 or 15$. Tricky to find, but it was in the flooring section, and was labelled as flooring for work room/tool room/utility room. I have also experimented lots with exercise mat, and it is much less satisfactory. I think you want the hard rubber type to last longer. Another name for it is "strain relief flooring" I think. Good luck
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HitokiriX wrote:

Grr...it's probably pretty easy and cheap to find, but I'm not looking the right places. Maybe some real assistance at home depot is what I need.



They won't know, and most places won't. But I was very happy to find some great non-slip rubber mat at the local hard ware store (Menards). 2 x 2 feet square, about 10 or 15$. Tricky to find, but it was in the flooring section, and was labelled as flooring for work room/tool room/utility room. I have also experimented lots with exercise mat, and it is much less satisfactory. I think you want the hard rubber type to last longer. Another name for it is "strain relief flooring" I think. Good luck


Hey thanks a lot. That'll really help my search. I think I do have a local hardware store in my neighborhood. Maybe they have it.
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I was searching on the web for non-slip rubber mats, and everything seemed really expensive. Then it occured to me: the stuff I want has to be very thin right? What about non-slip tape? I don't know if it'll work, but it's worth a shot....I still need a rubber kind of material, not the kind of black sandpaper surface that I see on concrete ramps in the streets. That would just scratch a wood floor even more. Wonder if that's possible....rubber tape....
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HitokiriX wrote:
I was searching on the web for non-slip rubber mats, and everything seemed really expensive. Then it occured to me: the stuff I want has to be very thin right? What about non-slip tape? I don't know if it'll work, but it's worth a shot....I still need a rubber kind of material, not the kind of black sandpaper surface that I see on concrete ramps in the streets. That would just scratch a wood floor even more. Wonder if that's possible....rubber tape....


You might want to give non-slip rug backing a try. It's pretty thin, and cheap. It isn't a complete sheet though, but its good enough for gripping and protecting floors. You can probably find it at your local wal-mart, kmart, marcs, giant eagle, etc. basically anywhere that sells home usefulness stuff.
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hey thanks a lot. I should really check that stuff out. Although it doesn't come in black like the manufacturer's stuff is, it still looks promising. The stuff at the bottom of my old pad actually looks like arts and crafts foam, now that I look at it more closely. It's like the lightweight foam that little kids use to cut into shapes'n'stuff. Maybe I'll check out an arts and crafts store for a huge roll of it...
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I stopped at AC Moore a while back when building my first homepad, It seems that they don't have anything even close to my surprise, same thing goes for HomeDepot and Lowes. I ended up using a thin mousepad cut into quarters, one quarter under each button holds it down very well.
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i have a question concerning the circuitry -

according to ddrhomepad's design, he said to avoid having the screws going trough the plexiglass touch the sheet metal contacts for fear of causing a short.

would the screws going through the pegboard and into the rails cause this problem too? after all, the sheet metal ground lies right on top of them.
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HitokiriX,

Here's an idea for your pad. It's not the cheapest solution, but it's not too bad and I think it will fit the bill. Home Depot has a rubber mat that is made to be placed under hardwood flooring to act as a sound absorber. I had bought a roll to sound insulate car doors, but it would work very well for your purpose. You can buy a large roll for $35, or you might be able to buy what you want. It's the premium type and is colored a light green. It's only about 2 mm thick and would be easy t glue to the bottom with some 3M 77 spray. Take a look at that and see if that would help you out.

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HitokiriX,

Here's an idea for your pad. It's not the cheapest solution, but it's not too bad and I think it will fit the bill. Home Depot has a rubber mat that is made to be placed under hardwood flooring to act as a sound absorber. I had bought a roll to sound insulate car doors, but it would work very well for your purpose. You can buy a large roll for $35, or you might be able to buy what you want. It's the premium type and is colored a light green. It's only about 2 mm thick and would be easy t glue to the bottom with some 3M 77 spray. Take a look at that and see if that would help you out.

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Hey I will! Thanks! The only bad thing about that is the green color, but maybe it comes in black. *shrug* Thanks again!
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. however, i found out that in two weeks, the arrow panels began to have cracks by the screws.


Ok, thanks. If you go, can you tell me how much you paid for lexan?
I'll probably compare cost of 2x lucite for each arrow(or 1 thicker piece) to 1 lexan per arrow.

I'm assuming that I would just double the size that 1 piece of lucite originally called for in Stoli's, right?
And would I just glue the arrow between the plexiglass and metal contact, correct?
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Hey I will! Thanks! The only bad thing about that is the green color, but maybe it comes in black. *shrug* Thanks again!


No problem. However, I'm not sure why the green color would be a problem since it's on the bottom. Anyway, if you would like to try it, but HD won't sell just want you need, I may be willing to sell part of my roll at cost and shipping. PM me about it. Good luck.

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Well my dad helped me figure what it was. It's called art foam, and it's arts and crafts foam for little kids. I can't find a 3' by 3' size though. Biggest was 18' by 36".
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