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180.  Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Arch0wl VI wrote: | | UG feat. djTORA â¶â wrote: | | Wakka Lakka wrote: | | If Arch0wl is involved I would not worry about the quality of the stepcharts. |
*coughhack* WOW THAT WAS JUST TOO FUNNY</3 |
Have you even played any of my newer charts? Not the ones I do for humor. |
if i remember right, your more recent ones are pad playable. Not the older ones that were timed to cacophonic music lol. |
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| 181. Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for answering me about the pads.
Oh, and to quote myself about Arch0wl's inclusion in this game...
| -Solid Gold- wrote: | | Arch0wl+whatever the hardest level is+Futurescape.EXE and Phase 1=Flawless Victory. |
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CNLohr
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| 182. Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like only two responces are necessiary:
1: You begin to block the light at 3/16ths of an inch. It will trigger somewhere between 1/16th and zero distance. I don't know about you guys, but it's clear that with most of the players I know, their feet (when they play flatfooted) do lift up a bit. Or rather the amount they depress would be sufficent.
2: I haven't seen it screw up yet on jackhammer steps. |
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Cutriss
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| 183. Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 8:22 am Post subject: |
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| lolinternet wrote: | | It seems to me that aside from longevitiy, optical pads don't really present any other advantages over an itg2 dedicab, which is already really, really sensitive. |
Granted, I have yet to see or play an ITG2 machine, but I really don't see where people get off saying that it's so super-sensitive. It's a digital sensor - it's either on or off. I mean, it's not like it's using next-generation military-grade dancing technology.
The single advantage a dedicated ITG2 machine has over any given DDR machine is that the DDR machine has seen a lot of mileage, whereas the ITG2 is nearly brand new. Give ITG2 a little while and that machine will start to need weekly maintenance too, I'm sure, and then it'll be just as much of a white elephant as DDR is to those arcade operators who don't want to deal with it.
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lolinternet
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| 184. Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 11:17 am Post subject: |
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| Cutriss wrote: | | lolinternet wrote: | | It seems to me that aside from longevitiy, optical pads don't really present any other advantages over an itg2 dedicab, which is already really, really sensitive. |
Granted, I have yet to see or play an ITG2 machine, but I really don't see where people get off saying that it's so super-sensitive. It's a digital sensor - it's either on or off. I mean, it's not like it's using next-generation military-grade dancing technology.
The single advantage a dedicated ITG2 machine has over any given DDR machine is that the DDR machine has seen a lot of mileage, whereas the ITG2 is nearly brand new. Give ITG2 a little while and that machine will start to need weekly maintenance too, I'm sure, and then it'll be just as much of a white elephant as DDR is to those arcade operators who don't want to deal with it. |
Well, I've never played on a brand new DDR pad, and never will since they don't exist anymore, but the pads on a dedicab are barely recessed at all, making them much easier to play on, and much less prone to stomping. All of the players who used to stomp like crazy while playing DDR barely make a sound on the Dedicab. I wouldn't be surprised if the pads/sensors on a dedicab last a pretty long time compared to your average DDR machine. |
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| 185. Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Reenee wrote: | | DDRtists wrote: | I wanna play it  sounds bad buttocks to me, i was just looking at it. Would be fun Though |
That was the fastest change of mentality on the internet I have ever seen. |
Accualy my friend told me to post that, those wernt my commments  |
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-joe-
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| 186. Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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hey this looks neat, you should let me stepfile some songs
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Reenee
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| 188. Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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| gb2joe wrote: | | hey this looks neat, you should let me stepfile some songs |
You assume they'll let anybody do anything. A water dispenser would be nice, though.
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| 189. Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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I figured I would post a link to a few pics of the latest optical pad.
http://www.stepmaniaonline.com/pics/opticalmat/
It has been tweaked slightly since then, but looks the same. This is NOT what it will look like for DTX, this is simply a home built (wooden) optical mat. |
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Phrekwenci
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| 190. Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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| gb2joe wrote: | | hey this looks neat, you should let me stepfile some songs |
Just curious, why should we let you?
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Phrekwenci
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| 192. Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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| That DDR guy at Gr. Lakes wrote: | | Quoted for lack of response, yet again |
We aren't able to say at this time.
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DDRtists
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| 193. Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 1:43 am Post subject: |
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Wow, guys i take back that comment earlyer, this looks very coo! =D Good luck, btw that pad is cool.
I have just one Thing to ask...
Besides the cosmetic and specs and stuff ( as in the looks and sound ) what makes this stand out and differnt from other Dance games? |
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| 194. Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:09 am Post subject: |
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The game looks sweet - people from "the community" behind it, carefully chosen licenses, interesting and potentially revolutionary new hardware.....and my only question was where the funding to build and distribute cabinets came from.....but that was partially answered by the thread.
So now I have more questions:
Are there plans yet regarding background animation? Bright/dark, complex/generic? What I'd personally love to see is some sort of dynamic lightsynth that responds to the charts and performance.
What kinds of stepcharts should we expect to see - in terms of, their, experimental nature, I guess? ITG has done some pretty outrageous things with difficult rhythms and unusual doubles charts so far, and I'm wondering if similar boundary-pushing is going to be seen in DTX. Cheating hands would probably be easier than ever on those pads, if those are going in. Or maybe it could be like pump and you have to cheat to combo it.
When will led-optic controller designs become cheap enough to take over the world? Seriously, the cost of home play is a big factor in how widespread dance gaming is. If the sensor circuitry were easy to mass-produce, there would be companies that could probably make a cheap pad with plastic-mold or some combination of that with wood/metal/rubber in large quantity the same way keyboards and mice are made for pennies today. With most of the reliability and feel issues resolved we would probably see more focus on new designs and aesthetics. |
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CNLohr
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| 195. Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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We have plans for many background animations, some of the songs with complete videos. We won't discuss this much though.
We also won't be talking too much about stepcharts here. We don't plan to out ITG ITG though.
Understand that pads are a lot larger than keyboards and mice. The will cost a lot to make and get to the US. |
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| 196. Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Arch0wl VI wrote: | | -Arch0wl, DTX Gameplay Designer |
This still makes me laugh inside.
To be honest, though, I'm really looking forward to this game as well. I can't really say I already hate it, because I haven't tried it, yet. (With ITG, I thought it was the worst until I actually TRIED it, at which time I became horribly addicted.)
Some innovative ideas are being thrown around, and I'd love to see them in action. Of course there are going to be issues with some of the ideas, but that's why the game hasn't been released, yet. For all of you who say "EET WON'T WURK", well it's not like they're going to sit there and release the game if it's not working. I'd assume they're not going to release it until it DOES work.
I had more to say, remind me to post it later if I remember.
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Dawgbowl
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| 197. Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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The music is different, but if it were the same as DDR/ITG it would fail correct?
ITG followed DDR in its dying period and came in with a bang at just the right moment... but ITG is pulling strong already so trying to follow it with similar music would flop.
They're going very mainstream with things like toxic and a thousand miles... but its better than 5th mix oops i did it again.
I'm looking forward to seeing how this turns out, If they put in the time and dedication... more dancing games is only a good thing.
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DDRtists
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| 198. Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 11:19 am Post subject: |
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| Dawgbowl & Juli-1337 wrote: |
I'm looking forward to seeing how this turns out, If they put in the time and dedication... more dancing games is only a good thing. |
ME too, i really think this will be good. and the only thing i dident like about ITG is that they added the fast steps to all the songs, even though they dont go with them  other than that its a good game. But i am loyal to DDR ( and hopefully this  ) |
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Truman
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| 199. Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 10:47 am Post subject: |
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| DDRtists wrote: | | ME too, i really think this will be good. and the only thing i dident like about ITG is that they added the fast steps to all the songs, even though they dont go with them other than that its a good game. But i am loyal to DDR ( and hopefully this ) |
Hahahahahaha |
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