Euphoria V. Pandemonium

ThemsAllTook · Trick Member Joined: 10 Jan 2005 Location: Virginia, USA

Different people have different skills. Pandemonium is fairly straightforward, but incredibly tiring. Euphoria is extremely complex and kinda hard to read in places, but physically much less draining. 61% vs. 94% does seem like a pretty extreme difference, but I don't find it all that hard to believe. I just wish I had that much stamina...

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It has a pause though, so you can't without dq'ing your score.

XMaxX · Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 5:50 pm Post subject:

Personally, I think that Pandemonium is harder than Euphoria, because Pandemonium runs at a constant 330bpm with 858 steps, and Euphoria changes it's bpm (70-140bpm) and has 793 steps. I cannot forget the fact that Pandemonium has only 4th and 8th notes and Euphoria has 64th notes. Also, Pandemonium has more jumps than Euphoria. Euphoria's steps may be quicker than Pandemoniums's steps (such as the 64th notes), but Pandemonium is more stamina draining (in my opinion).
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applebeetuna · Basic Member Joined: 10 Oct 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA

I won't quote anyone here, but if you can't hear what some of the steps are to, you're probably playing in a noisy arcade with the machine's volume set too low. Personally, I think that, since you're much more dependent on the sound on Bemani/Bemani style games, the volume on these machines should be set higher.

Anyway, if you want to know what the steps are for, buy the game for PS2 and buy some good speakers. You'll hear it.

Edit: Sorry I can't really comment on either song's expert difficulty, Dawn Hard (8) is my best accomplishment. Not bad, considering I've been playing DDR/ITG for like two months, a few hours per weekend...
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I've been refraining from saying this for a while, but all the posts on this thread that say anything along the lines of "Pandy is stupid hard, Euphoria can't have 32nd's at that BPM," etc., are BS posts. Sure, my best is a friggin' 8, but instead of saying "This ten is stupid hard! It should be easier!" I haul my butt to the arcade and work on my skills. You can't pass Pandemonium on expert? Then stop hating the game, and instead, get good enough to beat it. That's what I do. And I can tell you this much; since I work on myself, I'll be beating Pandemonium on expert long before you do.
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ParanoiaFantasy · Trick Member Joined: 07 Jul 2005 Location: Writing tCoR

JUst to tell you, you made a month bump to a dead thread. Over that thread, I did pass both songs (oh burn) and I still think there stupid. The latter half of the song is too stupid to comment on. Just refer back to my earlier posts. The therad stopped because no one could handle what i said cuz im to good.
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Thomas Hobbes · Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 3:11 pm Post subject:

Please don't double post either Apple.
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Feen · Trick Member Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Location: NJ

For Pandemonium, I'd have to say "BREAK THE KNEES!", but hell, thats what I said when I saw the Legend of MAX. So, you know. I'll eventually get it.
Pandemonium is much harder than Euphoria IMO. Pandemonium breaks my bones, but I can pretty much pass Euphoria. If I can make it to the slowdown, then I could go the rest of the way. It's pretty simple. It goes with the beat, so it's easy to know what your doing.
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JasonTheGreater · Trick Member Joined: 27 Aug 2005

Euphoria is easy now...I used to have a lot of trouble with that song, but I just worked on it a bit and I'm up to over 94% with 1 way off, almost a full combo.

Pandemonium on the other hand, is still extremely stamina draining and almost painful to play at times, but it's still a fun song. I have a 94.02% on it.

Euphoria is tougher than Pandemonium at first, but after practice, becomes much much easier than Pandemonium.
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Feen · Trick Member Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Location: NJ

It seriously does... It's fun, it sounds fine and its steps are where they should be. The slowdown can be a little boring and repetitive but still. The steps FIT. As with all the song. The damned steps fit. If the song kills you, practice.
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DevilKhai IIDX · Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 9:54 pm Post subject:

BURN! +1 to Rancid
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ParanoiaFantasy · Trick Member Joined: 07 Jul 2005 Location: Writing tCoR

I do play the game, I play it a lot. But I only play songs that have good step charts, like Da Roots or Pandy Hard. I am not closed minded, I have beaten the game. I do play an eleven all the time, so I don't care about the extra difficulty. The fact is, and I'd hard-pressed to find a lot of people who disagreed, DDR has better steps.

I'll admit, I never looked at a stepchart, yet I memorize DDR songs that I've been playing for like a week. I play Da Roots all the time, but I couldn't tell you what the first step was. I even forget what the music is sometimes! That is the difference between DDR and ITG, step quality. ITG is absolutely terrible at it. They SUCK!
DDR on the other hand rocks. I post hear cuz I have nothing better to do.
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Just to sort out a minor triviality on this topic, C450 is on the PS2 version, and C500 is in the arcade version. We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming.

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