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Solar-Wind
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240. PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

has ANYONE fixed a malfunctioning arrow on the Ignition pad by opening it up and doing "surgery"? I'm desperate here and i'm running out of ideas. it isnt completely dead, but it works then it doesnt. works then it doesnt. works then it doesnt. then it flickers. a LOT. then it doesnt work. then ill get it to a point where it seems fixed perfectly for a grand total of 20 seconds.... then it screws up again.

I need suggestions. BADLY. ANYTHING. I am desperate here. I have no money, i just got a usb that works with stepmania, i need my excersise, i need to play.
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I've done some repair work on my pads by replacing the foam between the sensor layers. It's pretty straightforward, but time consuming. However, if the problem is that there's a rip in the printed circuitry, you may have more trouble effecting repairs. I have one pad out of commission right now because one of the printed traces has broken. I found some metallic paint, which I plan to try using later, but it hasn't been a priority right now. The thing to do first is figure out whether the problem is the foam or the circuits. If the problem is really the foam, I may be able to give you some pointers on replacing that.
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well it is obviously not the foam problem, as foam do not have sensors on them. It seems you may have the take out the sensors from your pad, and cut off the wires connecting to the panel. All you need to do when you get a replacement sensor panel is solder the wires together, glue the sensor panel and wires down to the original location again. But to tell you the truth... you've had your pad since January, and thats.. well i'll just say that it has far surpassed its time already. Sorry to tell you, but in my opinion, I feel it is rather not worth the time, money, and effort to refurbish a foam dance pad. Yes, I know you might be low on the dough for now, but re-ordering new panels will cost you at least half the price of your Ignition pad and most likely after all the wear and tear you've put on it, it's going to die out on your pretty soon after that again. try your best to save up kid, and run around the block a few times to make up for the lost dances. frown.gif




p.s. you could try looking into buying a DX pad from BNS, as it's half the price of the RO Ignition pad right now, with denser foam inserts and thicker padding, thats where I got mine. It's pretty good. Good luck with it! E13.gif
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thing is though ive tried "patching" the senors completely until near the control box by taping down aluminum foil on top of them, still doesnt seem to do the trick. but once again i'm just not sure where the problem is starting. when i put a big piece of plywood to replace the the foam (something i planned on doing earlier) it didnt work as usual, but as i played with the broken arrow anyway, it eventually started working for a half hour as the right arrow raiser flattened (it had been very much bowed compared to the others) i thought it was because the arrow was flattened that it kinda "fixed" the problem (one of my suspections before) but then after a bit the arrow just started to die once again. i dont know why if only the sensor was the problem that the flattened arrow would fix it only to un-fix it a half hour later.... also sometimes when i try to manually connect the sensors they work and dont work, etc.... theres just too much wrong with it and i just cant get to the bottom of the problem. any quick suggestions like i said would be nice, but i'm probably just going to buy a new ignition to hold me over till christmas until i can get a CF.
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244. PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 12:39 pm    Post subject: Re: =/ Reply with quote

koofu wrote:
p.s. you could try looking into buying a DX pad from BNS, as it's half the price of the RO Ignition pad right now, with denser foam inserts and thicker padding, thats where I got mine. It's pretty good. Good luck with it! E13.gif


could i find them in any stores or would i have to order them online? $50 might just be more managable.
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RandomSegaFanboy wrote:
My mom bought a 3.0 for my birthday while at Otakon a few weeks ago, where the RO booth had an $80 special. How do I know this? I ran into her in the Dealer's Room, she had one of those really big bags Tokyopop was handing out, and she asked me for directions to the "place with the dance pads."

So was the 3.0 worth the $80?


To tell you the truth, I don't think any brand Ignition is worth the $80, even if they do sell it for $100 (even worse) on the site, its still to just rip u off... RO pads these days are starting to break down more and more too.
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Heres my situation. I bought DDREx with the default Konami pad. Ive been playing on that since April. I can pass 9s and A most 7s and some 8s. Recently, while trying to AAA easier songs, Ive noticed that my pad gives random misses. Although I am about to return my Konami pad under the 1 year warranty I bought, I would also prefer a nice dense foam softpad. From looking at this thread, both the Ignition and the BNS will eventually break down, so should I just save ~$50 and go for the BNS?
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247. PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say yes, but I haven't used a BNS before.

I returned my 2.0 yesterday for a 3.0 again. (5th time I have had to take back either a 2.0 or 3.0) Ahh, I missed playing with my pad on SM. But I can predict within a few more weeks, I'll have to take it back again. laugh.gif

It seems lately that everything RO is making is crap. E2.gif
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My boyfriend has a RO 2.0. Here's the problem. Stepping on the buttons makes the LED's light up, but it never regisers with the game. The foam insert is in storage, but i dont know if that makes a difference.
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From what I've read now, Ill just go for a BNS DX. If I do need to replace it, it wont have cost me too much money.
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I am considering getting a mymybox ignition 3.0 any opinions on the longevity of this pad. From firsthand experience. I wonder if it lasts longer than the redoctane ignition and the bns dx ignition pad?
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252. PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 7:04 pm    Post subject: Mine broke. Any suggestions? Reply with quote

I bought a pair of these close to a year ago with DDR Max for ps2. A couple of months ago the main pad just stopped working and a few days ago the second one did also. The same thing happened with both:

Phantom stepping was minimal although the buttons had slightly shifted towards the center making it hard to stand without pressing anything. The control box at the top of the pad still lights up whenever any of the buttons are pressed. I tried cutting one open and removing creases, adding duct tape, and whispering it sweet words, but it still does exactly the same thing. Most of the posts here were about nonfunctional buttons or the like, so I was wondering if anyone had any experience with this particular problem. I wonder if it's a problem in the control box's transmission. The key presses are clearly reaching that point but not going that last link to the console. I did try it with both DDR Max 2 and the original max and in both controller ports with and without memory cards inserted with the same results.

I'm planning to buy an ignition 3.0 in a few days with DDR Extreme 2. But If possible i'd like to revive these two faithful pads instead.
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FoxFireX wrote:
I've done some repair work on my pads by replacing the foam between the sensor layers. It's pretty straightforward, but time consuming. However, if the problem is that there's a rip in the printed circuitry, you may have more trouble effecting repairs. I have one pad out of commission right now because one of the printed traces has broken. I found some metallic paint, which I plan to try using later, but it hasn't been a priority right now. The thing to do first is figure out whether the problem is the foam or the circuits. If the problem is really the foam, I may be able to give you some pointers on replacing that.


on my old 2.0 it was the circuits. however, i bought a 3.0 a month ago which was hopefully supposed to last me until christmas, and i'm pretty sure the problem now is the horrible foam, which has become so ripped and weak it is useless and just putting the pad together pushes the down arrow. ive tried all i can with duct tape (blocking parts of sensors, trying to keep the foam together, but nothings working. if you're still around, could you get me started on replacing the foam?
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They sell replacement foam.
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Malice of BluR wrote:
They sell replacement foam.


Where? i looked, couldnt find anything. And this is the thin, holed-white foam you have to cut open the pad to access you are talking about, not the thick insert right? Cause i'm certainly not referring to the insert.
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Oh, I was talking about the gray insert foam for the pad. E10.gif
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Malice of BluR wrote:
Oh, I was talking about the gray insert foam for the pad. E10.gif


nah, and i dont even use the foam, i have a custom cut plywood insert covered in tape for my pad. i hoped it would make it last longer, and although it makes the pad nice and solid, it still hasnt done anything to prevent messing up the horrible crappy weakass foam layer inbetween the sensors.
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Solar-Wind wrote:
on my old 2.0 it was the circuits. however, i bought a 3.0 a month ago which was hopefully supposed to last me until christmas, and i'm pretty sure the problem now is the horrible foam, which has become so ripped and weak it is useless and just putting the pad together pushes the down arrow. ive tried all i can with duct tape (blocking parts of sensors, trying to keep the foam together, but nothings working. if you're still around, could you get me started on replacing the foam?

I've sent you a PM with probably far more details than you could want. I've been trying off and on to get an actual guide for this together. Maybe I'll go a little more to the "on" side of that again. Let me know if you have any questions, preferably before you start cutting things open.
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ok... My first ignition 2.0 I bought new from best buy... still works great after about 3 months of playing an hour (at least) a day on it.

I bought a used one a little over a week ago and now its malfunctioning, it works for around 15 songs. then stops all together. What could cause this???
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