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DAF
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20.  Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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How dare you say anything bad about Sakura! Healing Vision's steps are fine IMO. Burning Heat pisses me off sometimes.
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| 21. Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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| IamMe wrote: | | I have to go ahead and say no. Just, no. |
Explain.
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Solar-Wind
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| 22. Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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and also someone explain whats wrong with the steps to The Reflex. i love that stepchart. ditto for burning heat. i honestly cant notice this infamous "triplets are not perfect" problem. and i doubt most can't either since the difference is so minimal, theyve probably tricked themselves into thinking that its the stepcharts fault that gives them troubles.
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tis kelly
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| 23. Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Solar-Wind wrote: | | and also someone explain whats wrong with the steps to The Reflex. i love that stepchart. ditto for burning heat. i honestly cant notice this infamous "triplets are not perfect" problem. and i doubt most can't either since the difference is so minimal, theyve probably tricked themselves into thinking that its the stepcharts fault that gives them troubles. |
Ehh, true to a point. Some rhythms can and do have "triplet" steps to match them.
Pretty much the only reason why I would say that a song "needs" a new stepchart is if I personally enjoy the music and want more complex steps to go along with it. For example, 22Dunk, Gambol, Cutie Chaser, Tomorrow Perfume, Miracle Moon, 5.1.1, Your Rain, etc. |
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| 24. Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Phrekwenci wrote: | | IamMe wrote: | | I have to go ahead and say no. Just, no. |
Explain. |
It's one thing to do something that matches the music and vary it, but when you massively abuse and aspect of stepchartting, like making doublesteps, it becomes boring, stupid, and repetitive. There are plenty of other ways to go with the bass then just double stepping and spinning everywhere. It's never good to abuse something in such a way. This is just my opinion though. I think they could have made the steps more interesting while going to the bass, but yeah, whatever, to each to his own.
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| 25. Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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no one is saying End of the Century, which is the most obvious to me...
those steps are CRAP!! |
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Solar-Wind
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| 26. Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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| jenn xD wrote: | no one is saying End of the Century, which is the most obvious to me...
those steps are CRAP!! |
i definately agree, but i think the song is crap as well so i don't really care whether it has a bad stepchart or not
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| 27. Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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| IamMe wrote: | | Phrekwenci wrote: | | IamMe wrote: | | I have to go ahead and say no. Just, no. |
Explain. |
It's one thing to do something that matches the music and vary it, but when you massively abuse and aspect of stepchartting, like making doublesteps, it becomes boring, stupid, and repetitive. There are plenty of other ways to go with the bass then just double stepping and spinning everywhere. It's never good to abuse something in such a way. This is just my opinion though. I think they could have made the steps more interesting while going to the bass, but yeah, whatever, to each to his own. |
I agree...and looking at the stepchart again, there's no guarantee that everyone will double step in the same places.
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| 30. Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:07 am Post subject: |
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How about they just fix the 150ish songs that are offsync? Not redo them, just fix them.
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| 31. Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 6:57 am Post subject: |
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i think that Sandstorm needs a better stepchart, or at least oni steps. but that's my opinion, so no need to agree.
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| 32. Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 7:21 am Post subject: |
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| Solar-Wind wrote: | | jenn xD wrote: | no one is saying End of the Century, which is the most obvious to me...
those steps are CRAP!! |
i definately agree, but i think the song is crap as well so i don't really care whether it has a bad stepchart or not |
You know, Beethoven's Ode to Joy, which End of the Century is a remix of, is thought by many scholars of musical history to be the greatest musical accomplishment in all of human history.
An instrumental version of Ode to Joy is the national anthem of the European Union, and some have suggested that if humanity itself needed an anthem or "theme song", Ode to Joy would be it.
The End of the Century remix of the song might take away some of the majesty of the original, but don't be so quick to dimiss it completely.
Pump It Up also has an Ode to Joy remix. I can't recall the name of it, but I remember it being pretty good.
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| 33. Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 7:32 am Post subject: |
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| PedanticOmbudsman wrote: | | Solar-Wind wrote: | | jenn xD wrote: | no one is saying End of the Century, which is the most obvious to me...
those steps are CRAP!! |
i definately agree, but i think the song is crap as well so i don't really care whether it has a bad stepchart or not |
You know, Beethoven's Ode to Joy, which End of the Century is a remix of, is thought by many scholars of musical history to be the greatest musical accomplishment in all of human history. |
Indeed...and what the artist behind End of the Century has done is taken one of the greatest musical accomplishments in all of human history and turned it into a colossal piece of crap.
For some of the song, they've used the relative minor (submediant) chord under the melody rather than the tonic, probably because it sounded too "happy" the way it's supposed to be. The effect is horrid.
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| 34. Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 8:40 am Post subject: |
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| PedanticOmbudsman wrote: | | You know, Beethoven's Ode to Joy, which End of the Century is a remix of, is thought by many scholars of musical history to be the greatest musical accomplishment in all of human history. |
i'll certainly agree, but that doesnt make EOTC any less crap-sounding.
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| 35. Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 9:47 am Post subject: |
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I think they could have done something cooler and more difficult with Dance Dance Revolution. I like the idea of the challenge steps, but the heavy steps could have been harder.
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| 36. Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 9:54 am Post subject: |
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| DJX wrote: | | I think they could have done something cooler and more difficult with Dance Dance Revolution. I like the idea of the challenge steps, but the heavy steps could have been harder. |
I think the entire stepchart on Heavy should have been nothing but jumps.
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| 37. Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 9:56 am Post subject: |
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I would like an ITG approach... with a whole bunch of 10s, rather than just 5 or so, and some that should be 9s like sakura and bag.
I like the 130 to 170 bpm range with a lot of 1/16th notes. Very fun. Fantasy is a good example of that. Any song in that bpm range could use that modification for some challenge steps. |
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| 38. Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Every single stepchart needs to exactly be like Freckles Heavy. Especially Healing Vision Angelic and End of the Century. |
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Julie QQQ...?
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| 39. Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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Mikeneko Rock. Should be swung, but it isn't.
Gradiusic Cyber feels weird to me. I don't know what's up with it. Can't put my finger on it. Maybe it just has a bad chart.
The difference in the synching of Burning Heat and Bag is amazing if you actually care about PA, especially for musical people such as myself who have a pretty good notion of what a real triplet rhythm sounds like. |
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