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My home built metal DDR pad (Part IV)
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"..does anyone know of how to get Riptide's sheet metal to be black?"

Anodized aluminum.

Can be done to aluminum in many different colours, lasts long, protects the metal, enhances durability, doesn't chip off easily (if at all). Only downside is it cannot be made "white" - they can only "clean anodize" the aluminum.
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HitokiriX wrote:
Hey guys. Does anyone know where I could buy super thin foam mats that you find under manufactured metal pads? I want one so I can put it under my homemade pad and protect my wood floors from the metal underside. I've already tried looking on google and home depot and stuff but everything's either too small, thick, or super expensive.



Not sure how thin "super" means, but you might want to check out hardware stores other than home depot, for one. I found some very nice solid, black hard rubber floor matting in a local Menards. It's designed to be a "fatique-resistant" floor, and is about 3/8 inches thick. About 12$ or so for 4 square feet.
Another possiblity would be to look for exercise/yoga mats.


Well by super expensive I meant like 350-1000 bucks each. But that was at like a professional "floor matting" site. riiight.gif Never knew those existed....whatever. Anyway thanks for your help. I dont' have a Menard's near me but I'll look up hard rubber floor matting online and see what I get. Thanks.
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Hey sup guys and girls!

I'm finally done with my dance pad and it works like a charm E1.gif just need to screw down the brackets and its entirely done!

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Looks nice. Hope the performance dont change after you tighten up the brackets?.... nerd.gif
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yes it still works very well with brackets biggrin.gif
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Nice looking pad. *thumbs up*
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very nice

i see u even put a sticker on the back E4.gif

it looks well thought out and planned, like they should be E13.gif E15.gif

looks just like the arcade pads...now u just need to make another and put it next to it biggrin.gif (but thats expensive)

SUPER awesome E1.gif
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Is a 15 watt or 30 watt gun good for soldering to the circuit board? What solder is better rosin core or solder flux?
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And what size of solder?
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Master: Generally smaller solder is easier to use. I would recommend using a soldering iron instead of a gun, but a 30 watt gun would also work fine (an iron is easier for smaller spaces)
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Ok for the corner braces and drilling the hole. How did the corner braces for the wood did not crack, when drilling the screw in.

For Riptides design
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well, for me anyway, i dont like to cut the corners off the plex and make that wooden triangle...

but as long as u drill the hole in the triangle first, with the right size of bit, and THEN put the screw in, it shouldnt split/break

the way i do it, and found i like it alot better, is just to drill a lil bigger holes in the plex where the screws go thru and then you dont really need to worry about custom fitting the corner pieces of wood together
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For those who wonder how to put corner brackets using stoli's design here is how I did




u need to cut the plexi of course where the holes begin.

I've tried to use the wood thing but im not very handy with tools so none of my piece where the good size ^^
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I've been looking into the lights thing. It seems StepMania already has all the code needed to handle lights for buttons (individually), and even has a preference for setting lights on press vs lights on note. (i.e. lights when YOU press vs lights when you SHOULD press). But, no LightsDriver actually uses that info E4.gif (except the SystemMessage one. Go ahead and try it, set BlinkGameplayButtonLightsOnNote=1 and LightsDriver=SystemMessage on your .ini, play and see how the info on the screen matches the arrows as they arrive on the screen. With BlinkGameplayButtonLightsOnNote=0, it matches what you actually press.)

I've got it up and running under linux (haven't tested the physical hardware, since I currently have none, but the changes are trivial, and if the usual LightsDriver works, then this does too). Any windows folk with a working StepMania compile environment want to step up and I'll send him the patch? riiight.gif
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To those who have built pads using Stoli's design, or Stoli himself: Have you encountered a problem where both the X and O buttons are "confirm" buttons in DDRMAX2? I can't seem to go back to previous screens, as both buttons (including the O) take me forward and eventually into a song. Please tell me I didn't screw up my wiring. erm.gif E19.gif E2.gif

[edit] Well I opened up the controller to check the wiring, and it was spot on. Anyway, to fix the problem, I soldered the O switch on my pad to the Triangle contact in the controller. Now X goes forward and O goes back. Whew! *wipes sweat from forehead*

Also, one more question for anyone who might know, I bought an X-Box JoyBox controller adapter so I could plug my madcatz retro ps2 controller into my X-Box. I tried it out, and in the menu screens and song select screens, the reaction is very delayed. I have to hold the X button down for about 2-3 seconds before the game responds. I assumed this had to do with the fact that pushing on the pad, sending the signal to the PS2 controller, then to the JoyBox adapter, then finally to the X-Box might delay the signal sent, or might even cause the signal to lose power along the current, thus a delay. However, upon trying a song on the X-Box with the adapter and my pad, pushing on the arrows has very little delay, if any at all. I can basically play songs okay, but selecting them is a real pain. Very perculiar in my opinion, any electrical engineers out there know what might be causing a delay in the Menu, and not during the song? Thanks guys! riiight.gif
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mikieson wrote:
Well Im almost done with my new pad. I just need to drill the holes for my buttons in my control box. By the way..the metal isnt green, its gold color. My wall is green and reflecting on it..But green might be nice..LOL
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/mikieson/pad.jpg
Hope the link works as good as the pad...haha



your metal pad design look nice. if you post your metal pad design at mymybox metal pad design contest, you might win new mymybox metal pad or something!

They have contest going on http://site.mymybox.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24

since only a few people post thier metal pad design, you should post too. who knows. If I could do design and make a metal pad like you, I would have done it already!


here is the prize ! not bad

Prizes for *BlueShark metal Pad Design
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2nd Place: One (1) Wiiner will receive 1 MYMYBOX metal pad (MX1100) $199.99 Value
3rd Place: One (1) Winner will receive 1 MYMYBOX PREMIUM DANCE PAD (MXDX 3.0) $ 99.99 Value


New Xpert Pad 2.0 Design
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Poll Winners: who express his/her opinion the most! (Judged by bemanistyle.com Staff)
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2nd Place: One (1) Winner will receive MYMYBOX Deluxe Dance Pad (XDX25)
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4th Place: One (1) Winner will receive 1 MYMYBOX Xeprt Dance Pad Pro: MXT6
5th Place: One (1) Winner will receive 1 MYMYBOX Xeprt Dance Pad Pro: MXT6
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Master_Nabo wrote:
I finally finished my pad over my summer vacation. Cost a bit more than the estimates, but that was due to my lack of power tools.



My first pad turned out really well, but I had to do a bit of changing from the original specs. First, my steel wans't stainless, just galvanized, so it rusted. So I sanded it down, and applied some "Rust Away" spray paint (turned out decently nice). Second, soldering directly to the steel for the sensors didn't work the greatest (this steel was a different type, and didn't stick to solder too well). So, thanks to the help of a friend, we redesigned the sensors with little y-connectors and a bit of guessing.

It all worked out in the end, and it looks decently nice (little things still bother me), and it works great on my PS2 (plan to eventually hook it up to my PC). A bit heavy, but I can still move it, and perfect for transporting (put 600lbs on top of it and drove for about +5 hours). Still works great after this and many other stress tests.

I plan on eventually moving the control box from under the center panel to the empty room on the peg board, a bar on the other side, and maybe a boarder for looks.

btw, the lights idea would be awesome to do. I always wondered about the lights bit in the source for Stepmania, but never fully understood it.


Your metal pad looks nice.

How much did it cost you? where did you buy all of the parts? Home depot?
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Lucho wrote:
Hey sup guys and girls!

I'm finally done with my dance pad and it works like a charm E1.gif just need to screw down the brackets and its entirely done!




oh this pad really looks like arcade metal pad! here is * TWO thumbs up*

Sweet! drool.gif drool.gif
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Does anyone plan to make a metal pad with these sensor?

http://www.channelbeat.com/products/parts/dance_dance_revolution_parts/115.html



http://mymybox.com/ddracc20.html


http://www.channelbeat.com/products/parts/pump_it_up_parts/150.html

with this 1 cm acrylic foot panel arrow

http://www.channelbeat.com/products/parts/pump_it_up_parts/319.html



This would be Super and my dream Arcade metal pad (play on both Pump It Up and DDR metal pad).

drool.gif E15.gif
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Hi, I have been away from this forum/post for a while because I havent got time to build the pad yet.
Anyway. I havent read all the post here, too much.. So the thing Im wondierng about is if its any new better (improved) designs to follow out now?
I have to designs on my computer, riptides and that homepad design. I chose riptides.

But just now i found the link to solis design that looked way better than riptides. Is solis the way to go? I mean.. It looks alot cooler! riiight.gif;
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