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20. PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rancidfish wrote:
And if I'm supposed to be flailing at the pad and completely wearing out my legs, while I can do VerTex and Euphoria without overmuch effort, how does that make Delirium an easy 12?


I don't see how you can find Euphoria easier than Delirium.

All I can say is practice Delirium more or create an edit to help you build stamina for the runs. You also might want to ask at ITGFreak, since a lot of the better players are banned from DDRFreak X-D

As for Pandemonium, I finally passed it yesterday. I played July and noticed the candle steps didn't tire me out like they usually do, so I tried Pandex as my last song and passed it with 75%. I dunno what I did exactly that allowed me to pass it, though.
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21. PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tac-tics (who can't PA) wrote:
I don't see how you can find Euphoria easier than Delirium.
Euphoria is slow, and therefore easy. (It was my second 12.) Additionally, all of the runs are broken, while Delirium has a long constant run.
tac-tics (who can't PA) wrote:
All I can say is practice Delirium more or create an edit to help you build stamina for the runs.
Stamina isn't the problem. I just ghetto-padded it at home, and I wasn't even tired afterwards, and it FELT like I was doing it. However, I know that, like in the arcade, I was probably missing too many steps. I can keep going, but I fail because I can't move fast enough to hit all the steps. I step fast enough, but I get misses from not moving my feet far enough before the next step. If you want to help, actually pay attention to what I'm saying. :/
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22. PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rancidfish wrote:
If you want to help, actually pay attention to what I'm saying. :/


Don't get snippy.

You are obviously a special case as most people do not have this problem, so I can't guess what the difficulty is. If you can move your feet fast enough to combo Euphoria's 32nd notes at a murderous 17 steps a second, it would seem logical that 11 steps a second would be a cakewalk.

Anyway, I would suggest you make another thread for this as we're getting off topic.
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23. PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ive olny played itg once, and i didnt find pandemonium that hard?
maybe im just weird... i think PSMO is harder to pass lol
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midjetville wrote:
ive olny played itg once, and i didnt find pandemonium that hard?
maybe im just weird... i think PSMO is harder to pass lol


I find PSMO harder than all of ITG1's 12s.... but I find Pandy Ex harder

Pandy ex isn't hard to step, it's just lame to get all the way through because you need way too much stamina. If it was the same length time wise as PSMO, it would be a cakewalk as the steps aren't too hard at all.

As for Delerium, I find it the easiest 12, and Vertex the hardest for ITG1, but I've seen other people find Delerium extremely harder than (I think) they should. Guess it just depends on what your good at, hmm?

I suggest grasping the bar tightly and keeping your entire body as low as posible while stepping, it's how I do it.
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25. PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vertex the hardest ITG1 12?! You've got to be kidding me. Vertex is the easiest. Tell is harder than Vertex. And what about HotN???
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26. PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most of the people that are making the dumb comments here...like vertex being the hardest 12 or PSMO being even slightly difficult in comparision to 12's on ITG really should go out and PLAY ITG sometime not just speculate or w/e they are doing... anyways...
Pandemonium requires ALOT of stamina.... build up to it however you can... no bar stuff.... play hard stuff.. and make sure you are really warmed up before you play it.... and whoever thinks PSMO is harder to pass then pandemonium must be talking about medium lol hard is even harder then PSMO
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27. PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I did to pass Pandy was to play it without the jumps to get use to the runs, then when I was use to them, added the jumps. Give it a try, it might help you improve in the long run. E13.gif
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28. PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Longer, much much much harder, and very energy killing. PSMO and LoM are easy compared to Pandemonium. blink.gif
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29. PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your leg isn't moving far enough, try to focus on just moving your foot. Sounds weird yes, but are you good at the heel-toe method? You can practice by standing diagonally and using one foot to hit up and left, while the other hits down and right. You get used to pretty much not moving your foot, just lifting and pressing your heel/toe. This is good for stamina and speed, atleast I find.

Practice it on some 9s without the bar so you get comfortable with it, then apply it on harder songs E1.gif

I was playing Disconnected Hyper two days ago on hard without moving and I heard the people beside me saying I was playing like Yasu (???).

EDIT: This is in response to Rancidfish's posts, I didn't even see that there was a second page to this thread.
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30. PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JSB plays like that too.
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I tried that, but...didn't work for me E15.gif
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32. PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ninjafetus wrote:
You can raise stamina in non-ddr ways too, like running.


The only way running would help with your stamina would be if you were sprinting all out until your body couldn't take anymore. Regular jogging doesn't help stamina, it helps endurance. I jog and bike often and I haven't gotten any better at ITG.
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33. PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Rancidfish"]heehee... Hardcore of the North and Delirium are the two 12s I can't pass. XD I've gotten a lot closer to HotN than Delirium though. The long 1/8th / 1/16th runs in Delirium/Pandemonium are insane. I can barely even pass Pandemonium hard because of the 1/8th runs in the middle.

Hardcore of the North was the first 12 i passed. But I can understand delirium. I havent passed Tell. And Im right with u on Pandy hard.
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