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DDR Simulators OTHER than Stepmaina, DWI..
 
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0. PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 1:03 pm    Post subject: DDR Simulators OTHER than Stepmaina, DWI.. Reply with quote

So here's the deal. I'm going to be stuck on a train for 24 hours with my only entertainment being my terribly outdated Sony Viao from 1999 with a weak video card.

The problem: My computer doesn't support DWI or Stepmania. No, I don't really want to go out and fix my video card, nor do I want a new laptop ($$$). What I need is a DDR sim that will be able to run on my computer.

I tried FFR, but the downloadable version blows chunks. So what I did was made the page available offline, downloaded the songs I wanted and hoped they would stay in my cache. Turns out they didn't. Booerns.

Anyways, I was wondering if there's a DDR sim out there, besides DWI and Stepmania that anyone knows is available for download. If anyone could help me out that'd be great E1.gif
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1. PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://dwifiles.webcindario.com/simulator.php

Try "Delight Delight Reduplication" or "Diet Diet Revolution." (I Reccommend Delight Delight)
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2. PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

theATARIbandit wrote:
http://dwifiles.webcindario.com/simulator.php

Try "Delight Delight Reduplication" or "Diet Diet Revolution." (I Reccommend Delight Delight)


The links didn't work/were corrupted. Thanks anyways though E1.gif

I got DWI to work by adding the tag to the file extension making it playable fullscreen. Sweetness. Now I get to spend hours downloading simfiles.
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3. PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 10:10 am    Post subject: Non-DDR simulators Reply with quote

There needs to be a Beatmania sim for PC. Anyone know of one in development? I haven't found anything yet, except for a blurb stating StepMania "plans" to have BM support.
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4. PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are many. Keymania, BMDX are two that I know off off hand.
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5. PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 12:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Non-DDR simulators Reply with quote

haunted_i wrote:
There needs to be a Beatmania sim for PC.


Delight Delight was used as a Beatmania sim for some time I do believe...
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6. PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ahh...Delight's for Windows only, apparently. Well, back to searching for an English Mac version.
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7. PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 6:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Non-DDR simulators Reply with quote

haunted_i wrote:
There needs to be a Beatmania sim for PC.


There are/were a lot of them. A LOT of them. Most of them have at least one deal-breaking problem, though, with the most common problems being:

1. Impossible to obtain the program because of no working download links / all available information points to dead sites and broken links. (This is the problem with the "sticky threads" on DDR Freak -- the information & links are vastly out of date & often useless, and updated information [if there is any] is buried amid 2000 other posts stretched out over the next few years.)
2. Impossible for those who can't read Japanese (or, rarely, another language) to install/use/understand. This related to the point above. Most of the Beatmania simulators are Asian projects, usually Japanese, and very few have English websites. Even if enough of the in-game text is in English (as with DDR) to use the program, you're hindered by the fact that the websites & all the documentation are in Japanese.
3. Anicient / not very good / ugly. A lot of these programs were just thrown together without much quality control. Many use ancient 90's-era graphics. Many haven't been updated in years and don't run well on modern PCs. And some just have horrible user interfaces, bugs, and severe feature-lack.

I spent a few hours looking for one that could actually be obtained, could be understood, and would actually work, searching through the threads on DDR Freak filled with nothing by download links that had been broken for three years & links to unreadable Japanese pages, until I finally managed to download two working programs: MixWaver (version mw2j12, dated Aug 2004) and BemaniaDX (version bmDX3095_dx, dated Nov 2001). MixWaver was very poor (once you selected a song group, I could find no way to switch to another group without completely exiting & restarting the program), but BemaniaDX was okay.

BemaniaDX is nowhere near the quality level of Stepmania (not even in the same universe), not surprising for a 4-year-old version, but it was the only working, obtainable, English-enough-to-understand Beatmania simulator that I could find, so I guess it wins.
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8. PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is probably a stupid drool.gif question, but are dwi files compatible with simulators other than stepmania/dwi?
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9. PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe pyDance supported .dwi files. I'm not entirely sure, though. And on the topic of StepMania, SM is a Bemani emulator, as in all you really need to do is define a GameType and have a theme. Once that's down, you pretty much can simulate any game with scrolling notes set to music. I also hear the next version of StepMania will have KeySounds support, so more power to the BM people.
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10. PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 9:00 am    Post subject: Re: Non-DDR simulators Reply with quote

haunted_i wrote:
There needs to be a Beatmania sim for PC. Anyone know of one in development? I haven't found anything yet, except for a blurb stating StepMania "plans" to have BM support.




there is a beatmania theme out for stepmania, its only 5 key and well it rele sux, i got it almost a year ago and have only played it once. ive heard of other simulaters that are out now but there not that great so most peoploe just use ps2
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11. PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 9:00 am    Post subject: Re: Non-DDR simulators Reply with quote

haunted_i wrote:
There needs to be a Beatmania sim for PC. Anyone know of one in development? I haven't found anything yet, except for a blurb stating StepMania "plans" to have BM support.




there is a beatmania theme out for stepmania, its only 5 key and well it rele sux, i got it almost a year ago and have only played it once. ive heard of other simulaters that are out now but there not that great so most peoploe just use ps2
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