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0. PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 9:54 pm    Post subject: DJ Party... Reply with quote

Am I the only one who noticed that the song "DJ Party" totally ripped off the song "Green Eyed Lady" by The Guess Who? The melody is exactly the same.

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Also, if I'm not mistaken, the song "Crazy" also seems to have borrowed it's chorus from "Video Killed the Radio Star".

Then again, I doubt many other people than myself are really too bothered by this E1.gif
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1. PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dude... I just noticed the crazy thing...

Thats awesome lol..
I never heard that Guess Who song... so I couldn't tell you.
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2. PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeh I noticed it the first time I heard the song on the In the Groove website. You shouldn't be bothered by it though, many popular pop stars borrow melodies for their songs. I remember Jessica Simpson did that a few years ago but a lot of people didn't recognize the melody so nobody noticed that it was already in another song.
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3. PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I noticed the crazy thing to but I accually heard vidio killed the radio star for the first time after I heard crazy
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4. PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Libra wrote:
Yeh I noticed it the first time I heard the song on the In the Groove website. You shouldn't be bothered by it though, many popular pop stars borrow melodies for their songs. I remember Jessica Simpson did that a few years ago but a lot of people didn't recognize the melody so nobody noticed that it was already in another song.


Yeah, she did...it was an Eagles song (Lyin' Eyes, maybe?), but I can't remember which one....if I heard her song I'd pick it out again. The first time I heard that, I flipped, because I'm a big Eagles fan.

It does bother me quite a bit, I feel the original artists deserve credit for their composures, and it strikes me as if the artists that do borrow the melodies lack the creativity to make their own. A good example of this is the infamous case involving (forgot his name) and his song "Ice Ice Baby", which ripped the melody from Queen's "Under Pressure", but when they filed a case, he won for some terribly miniscule reason.

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5. PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MadTaco wrote:
Libra wrote:
Yeh I noticed it the first time I heard the song on the In the Groove website. You shouldn't be bothered by it though, many popular pop stars borrow melodies for their songs. I remember Jessica Simpson did that a few years ago but a lot of people didn't recognize the melody so nobody noticed that it was already in another song.


Yeah, she did...it was an Eagles song (Lyin' Eyes, maybe?), but I can't remember which one....if I heard her song I'd pick it out again. The first time I heard that, I flipped, because I'm a big Eagles fan.

It does bother me quite a bit, I feel the original artists deserve credit for their composures, and it strikes me as if the artists that do borrow the melodies lack the creativity to make their own. A good example of this is the infamous case involving (forgot his name) and his song "Ice Ice Baby", which ripped the melody from Queen's "Under Pressure", but when they filed a case, he won for some terribly miniscule reason.

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Hmm, that Jessica Simpson song ripped off an Eagles song? I thought the original was John Mellencamp's "Jack and Diane", but heck, for all I know maybe he borrowed that melody as well. I knew the minute I heard the Jessica Simpson version that the melody wasn't original, though.

Anywho, Vanilla Ice won the fight over "Under Pressure" and "Ice Ice Baby"? Wow, I didn't know that. I kind of assumed he lost, because it certainly seemed like that was the end of his career as a rapper at that point. Another example of this kind of borrowing happened with Rick James' Superfreak. MC Hammer took that song and copied it pretty much exactly (or sampled it, if you prefer) for "U Can't Touch This" back in 1990 without permission, but I can't find anything that says James went after Hammer for this. With or without permission, that kind of sampling is really common in hip-hop, though. The first Hip Hop song to really achieve widescale success, The Sugar Hill Gang's "Rapper's Delight", samples Chic's disco hit, "Good Times", for example. Another example I've heard of, but don't really see myself, is that the Ghostbusters theme by Ray Parker, Jr. rips off Huey Lewis and the News' "I Want a New Drug". Lewis did sue Parker for this one, and they settled out of court IIRC.
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6. PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know the Ghostbusters theme and "I Want A New Drug"... I really can't see it either. The only thing I can think of is possibly the musical bridge of IWaND, but I can't place it right now.

And I remember my friend mentioning something about Vanilla Ice and the 'Ice Ice Baby"/"Under Pressure" deal... I don't know if he was serious about this, but he said something like this:

Ice's defense was that:

"Under Pressure" = dun dun dun dadadun dun
"Ice Ice Baby" = DA dun dun dun dadadun dun

Basically, there was one added 1/16th or 1/32nd note in the guitar line and THAT was the difference. I dunno if it's true, but it's good enough to spark some debate. :-P

And Jessica Simpson sampling "Jack And Diane" made me cry.
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7. PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I stand corrected. It was John's "Jack and Diane". How embarrasing E1.gif It made me cry as well.

I also heard about the very minor change in the beat by Vanilla Ice, which was fairly pathetic in my opinion. I was unaware of the Ghostbuster's theme being ripped from "I Want a New Drug", but you're right.

I'm excessively anal about the whole sampling scene, when it does happen. It just kills me inside when people like the bastardized version of an older song, to which no credit is given, and think that the artist they're listening made it themselves. I think the best example I can think of so far actually is Jessica Simpson's little stunt. John C. Mellencamp must be pissed.
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8. PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't be too hard on them, after all, it is impossible to write a legally "original" piece of music.
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9. PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, I'd like to know where you dug up that little gem E1.gif
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10. PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MadTaco wrote:
Wow, I'd like to know where you dug up that little gem E1.gif


That right there is classic tepples goodness, my friend. E1.gif
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