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0. PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 9:07 pm    Post subject: ITG2 pads Reply with quote

Hey, My local lan center, Izone, is getting ITG2 The end of this summer. I was just wondering to the people who have played on the machine, how do the pads feal? Are they like Pump It Up pads, or are they totaly different.
I Personaly like DDR pads better than PiU. because they have more bounce... Thanks in advance.
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1. PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are in every way, awesome.
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2. PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 7:56 pm    Post subject: Re: ITG2 pads Reply with quote

myuglybunny wrote:
Hey, My local lan center, Izone, is getting ITG2 The end of this summer. I was just wondering to the people who have played on the machine, how do the pads feal? Are they like Pump It Up pads, or are they totaly different.
I Personaly like DDR pads better than PiU. because they have more bounce... Thanks in advance.

well as far as i hear its still like the DDR or ITG not like PIU but thats what im hearing but idk for shur
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3. PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Play on a dedicated cabinet for a week and you wont want to look at a regular ddr machine again. Trust me, thats the way I feel now. laugh.gif
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4. PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's like DDR's pad only far superior. I don't like playing on DDR pads now that I play ITG2.
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5. PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only played on a dedicated cab once and the pads felt the same to me. Supposedly they're designed to have a little more give so they can register hands better. I didn't notice this because I have gotten used to hands.

So, to me, no difference. ;D
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6. PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anybody have an idea of how many of the dedicated cabinets have actually shipped out into the real world so far? I'm dying to see one.

Has anybody done an apples-to-apples comparison by doing the same songs on both an upgraded cabinet and a dedicated cabinet to compare scores? It wouldn't quite be fair because the pads on the dedicated cabinet would be a lot newer, but it'd still be interesting to know the results.
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7. PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have played both and upgrade and DC and let me say, the DC is MUCH better.
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8. PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Almost Crimes wrote:
It's like DDR's pad only far superior. I don't like playing on DDR pads now that I play ITG2.

Yeah seriously, the difference is huge.

I think it may because of three things:

1) Slightly smaller pads and arrows make slightly less distance to move.
2) Slightly increased sensitivity and superior screen makes it more clear.
3) Increased "springiness" of the pad cuts down on expended energy.

The moral of the story is: I can play for hours anything I want without getting tired - and I can't play on DDR pads anymore.
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9. PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So has anybody made a list of places that have dedicated ITG2 cabinets already? I'd love to get a chance to see one. I travel for work every single week, so I just have to call up my company & see if they have any sites available near any of the locations -- they pay for my airfare, rental car, meals, and gas, so my only expense is my arcade tokens. laugh.gif

(I got to put a "Break Steak" (with fries & soda) on my expense report from my trip to New Jersey a couple weeks back, and the company reimbursed my $4... that was awesome. Gotta eat, y'know.)
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ChrisFoy.Kiba wrote:

3) Increased "springiness" of the pad cuts down on expended energy.


If I assumed you meant the springiness of the arrows themselves, would I be correct? If this is the case, I'd like to know how much the arrows "give" when you step on them, so that I might estimate its feel based off my metal pad (which gives about 3/16").
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11. PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PedanticOmbudsman wrote:
So has anybody made a list of places that have dedicated ITG2 cabinets already? I'd love to get a chance to see one.

My arcade just got the dedicated cabinet a week and a half ago. This is the closest pic i have of it.



As you can see, it's also back to back with the DDR.
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12. PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

EDIT:: NEVERMIND!
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13. PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just doing some thinking about why the pads might be less tiring.

Imagine the total shrinkage is about 1 inch (so what like 0.25inch per square, barely visible). Now imagine there are 900 steps in a song.

That's 900 inches less movement, which comes out to 75 feet less you are moving per song. That's quite a difference.
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14. PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, I'm slightly lost on how much you think the pad has shrunk. Do you mean that it shrunk 1" total length and width-wise? Or that each panel shrunk 1" both ways, such that the total length/width is now 3" shorter? The latter would have to be the case to be confluent with your idea of being 75 feet shorter on a 900 step song, I believe. If it's the former case, then each panel (assuming all 9 panels are congruent) shrunk 1/3." The key is probably how large the center panel is, since that determines the distance between the first "hittable" area on the arrow. From L to R and U to D, there's only a 1/3" discrepancy between it and the DDR pad. Unless the corner brackets are accordingly smaller, the distance ought to remain the same for U to R, D to L, and so on. But let's assume the corner brackets are adjusted, so that it too is a smaller distance. Multiplying the discrepancy of 1/3" by the 900 steps is obviously 300," or 25 feet. It's a difference, but not as impressive as 75 feet.
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15. PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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OK, I'm slightly lost on how much you think the pad has shrunk. Do you mean that it shrunk 1" total length and width-wise? Or that each panel shrunk 1" both ways, such that the total length/width is now 3" shorter? The latter would have to be the case to be confluent with your idea of being 75 feet shorter on a 900 step song, I believe. If it's the former case, then each panel (assuming all 9 panels are congruent) shrunk 1/3." The key is probably how large the center panel is, since that determines the distance between the first "hittable" area on the arrow. From L to R and U to D, there's only a 1/3" discrepancy between it and the DDR pad. Unless the corner brackets are accordingly smaller, the distance ought to remain the same for U to R, D to L, and so on. But let's assume the corner brackets are adjusted, so that it too is a smaller distance. Multiplying the discrepancy of 1/3" by the 900 steps is obviously 300," or 25 feet. It's a difference, but not as impressive as 75 feet.

I am saying the pad as a whole has shrunk, but I simplified such that the differential between "across steps" (U to D and L to R) and "near steps" (everything else) is about the same as imagining a 900 step having no jumps (which count as one step), freeze rolls, hands or anything of that sort.

We could do a more complex estimation by taking your 25 feet and adding the distance for all across steps, jumps, freeze rolls and hands.
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16. PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, there'd be many aspects to consider per stepchart, not to mention someone's playing style for each chart... sounds like more work than is necessary. I get your point that the smaller pad saves you n distance of running. What about that "springy" aspect of the arrows? Is it more comfortable on your feet, or do you get some added "oomph" from the arrow springing back as your foot releases pressure?
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Synaesthesia wrote:
Yeah, there'd be many aspects to consider per stepchart, not to mention someone's playing style for each chart... sounds like more work than is necessary. I get your point that the smaller pad saves you n distance of running. What about that "springy" aspect of the arrows? Is it more comfortable on your feet, or do you get some added "oomph" from the arrow springing back as your foot releases pressure?

Both but emphasis on the latter. The bounceback is not so much it distracts you, but it gives you a little kick which cutsdown on the energy you need to use per step. The little changes don't seem like much, but when you factor them all in you can see why the change is so dramatic.
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18. PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The pads that i played on at Glendale were just so awesome, i can nail the hands with the least weight possible. =D
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ChrisFoy.Kiba wrote:

Both but emphasis on the latter. The bounceback is not so much it distracts you, but it gives you a little kick which cutsdown on the energy you need to use per step. The little changes don't seem like much, but when you factor them all in you can see why the change is so dramatic.


OK, so it's like the difference between running on grass (like that of a good soccer field, or something) and cement. Now I'm really sad that I don't have an ITG2 near me... T_T
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