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20. PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

T-14 wrote:
Remember december

That's a 10 on Expert.

On a Day Like Today's ending run is absolute BS. Driving Force Classical is just...something. Maybe it's the endless stream, I have no idea what makes it so hard. (Those two are my votes, by the way.)
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21. PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

! Is a deadly song.
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22. PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been trying to pass every nine and some of those kill me. Touch Me and On A Day Like Today with the weird rhythms are just...argh. Then there's Lemmings with the mines. I'm not fast enough. ;______;

Er, hardest EX 9 would prolly be Zodiac, I think, considering it was a ten once, and judging by the 32nd sections (particularly the jump-32-8-32 parts, that I'm not even sure how to do) and the streams with repeating arrows (L-R-L-L-R-L-R-R, etc.) similar to those in Anubis.
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23. PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you're referring to the part with a 1/4 jump, a 1/24 note, a 1/8 note (which is actually another 1/24), another 1/24, then 1/4 jump, then repeat? It's really just a matter of getting your feet tapping that fast. ITG also lets you lame jumps/triples/quads, in that the grade you get is determined by what timing window you were within when the last note was pressed. If you press L and R very quickly together, but not the same time, you can still get Excellent for that jump. Such a technique usually kills your FA, but can let you get through that section. That might be helpful by keeping you from becoming flat on the jumps, allowing you to stay ready for those 3 1/24 notes in a row.
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24. PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[Emo Squad] XuXa wrote:
Maybe i'm naivé or something, but last time i checked these were the hardest Expert songs:

(ITG1) Pandemonium 13 footer
(ITG1) VerTex 12 footer
(ITG2) Summer ~Speedy Mix~ 13 footer
(ITG2) VerTex^2 13 footer


Pandemonium is hard. Vertex is not. Summer ~Speedy Mix~ is EASY and Vertex² is just ridiculous. Euphoria is the hardest 12 block on ITG1 by FAR, while Vertex is the easiest. Summer ~Speedy Mix~ shouldn't be a 13 as most of us who have passed it broke 80% on our first try. Some even sightread. Maybe I'd substitute Summer ~Speedy Mix~ for Bloodrush. And they are not "footers" 13 Block or 12 Block would suffice.
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25. PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zodiac is my choice for hardest 9. That string in the middle of the song that gets the right foot going nuts is damn near impossible, even on a Flux.

As for On a Day Like Today... This is one of my favorite songs, right up there with I Like that Sound. Both have similar runs in the middle and ending. The only part that really gets me in ODLT are the hands after the run at the end. My legs just don't want to let me get back up again after squatting down.
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26. PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Zodiac is my choice for hardest 9. That string in the middle of the song that gets the right foot going nuts is damn near impossible, even on a Flux.

As for On a Day Like Today... This is one of my favorite songs, right up there with I Like that Sound. Both have similar runs in the middle and ending. The only part that really gets me in ODLT are the hands after the run at the end. My legs just don't want to let me get back up again after squatting down.


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27. PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

djzmudpony wrote:
Zodiac is my choice for hardest 9. That string in the middle of the song that gets the right foot going nuts is damn near impossible, even on a Flux.

As for On a Day Like Today... This is one of my favorite songs, right up there with I Like that Sound. Both have similar runs in the middle and ending. The only part that really gets me in ODLT are the hands after the run at the end. My legs just don't want to let me get back up again after squatting down.


Zodiac shouldn't even be a 9. An 8 would suffice. It's just doesn't feel like a 9 should. It's too simple. The string in the middle is perfectly possible, definitly FAable by 98% of us and it's just much too easy of a 9. But who ever heard of an 8 block expert chart?

I've seen many a person struggle while playing On A Day Like Today and not much else so I would say that OADLT would IMO, be the hardest 9 block. Although there's prolly more that I'm just not thinking of that could compete with it.....
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28. PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Either pandemonium or summer speedy mix or delerium.
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29. PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

actually, Ill go with pandemonium, euphoria and vertex 2. all are impossible.
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30. PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Synaesthesia wrote:
I think you're referring to the part with a 1/4 jump, a 1/24 note, a 1/8 note (which is actually another 1/24), another 1/24, then 1/4 jump, then repeat? It's really just a matter of getting your feet tapping that fast. ITG also lets you lame jumps/triples/quads, in that the grade you get is determined by what timing window you were within when the last note was pressed. If you press L and R very quickly together, but not the same time, you can still get Excellent for that jump. Such a technique usually kills your FA, but can let you get through that section. That might be helpful by keeping you from becoming flat on the jumps, allowing you to stay ready for those 3 1/24 notes in a row.


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31. PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OMEGA555MAXX wrote:
actually, Ill go with pandemonium, euphoria and vertex 2. all are impossible.

Yeah pandemonium is clearly immpossible disturb.gif
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32. PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha, VerTex^2 is quite difficult. Yet, I've watched my friend clear the whole game so everything else isn't. E10.gif

I'm guessing that my friend will get down Summer on his first or second try. He will then most likely get VerTex^2 on his fourth or fifth try at most.
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lemmings on the frikin run. I just suk at it. dont know why...
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34. PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OMEGA555MAXX wrote:
actually, Ill go with pandemonium, euphoria and vertex 2. all are impossible.


LOL. I've passed Pandemonium countless times. Euphoria countless times. And I await Vertex² to be unlocked. None are impossible. Just hard.
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^Alex...didn't I say that anybody who unlocks Vertex^2 at James Games would be shot by my frick SHOTGUN?
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36. PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LEEROY! (Alezay) wrote:
Summer ~Speedy Mix~ shouldn't be a 13 as most of us who have passed it broke 80% on our first try.


That's because "most of you who passed it" play 13s a lot. Summer is rated 13 because it has long sections of ~180bpm 16ths. Delirium is a 12 because is has a long section of ~155bpm 16ths. The rest of both songs are relatively easy, they just got the rating because the tough sections are a little too much to warrant a downgrade.
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37. PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Zodiac shouldn't even be a 9. An 8 would suffice.


Zodiac should DEFINITELY be a 9. Yeah its easy to FA once you know what going on, but to pass it's quite difficult. 8 footers don't have 16th note runs like that. Compare it to most 9s in the game and it seems about right in the middle. There are some that are easier (Bumblebee, No Princess), and some that are harder (Remember December, HOTN)
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38. PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

technically, pandemonium is the hardest in ITG

i don't know about ITG2
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You didn't read the thread. E10.gif
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