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DJ C0m37 Trick Member
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20. Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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if you say DDR with a korean accent, it means masterbation in Korean.
So i was in korean class, teacher asked us what we like to do on our free time, I said I play DDR with my friends(I said it in Korean), all the korean kids started laughing and the teacher looked at me disgusted. |
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MAAAX_himself Trick Member
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21. Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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xxPinkeh wrote: | Ofcourse you can use it! Who's stopping you? Lets go DDR! I love to DDR! I like to DDR in my spare time. The possibilities are endless.
Is it considered correct? o_o probably not. But just cuz its not right doesn't mean you can't use it...
Rules are meant to be broken. |
I use all of those examples |
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Synaesthesia Trick Member
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22. Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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DarkIcarus wrote: | xxPinkeh wrote: | Lets go DDR! I love to DDR! I like to DDR in my spare time.
Is it considered correct? o_o probably not. But just cuz its not right doesn't mean you can't use it...
Rules are meant to be broken. |
In these examples no rules are broken, but you aren't using DDR as the verb either. In your first example GO is the verb and in your second and third TO |
Wrong. In the first sentence, "let" is the primary verb of the sentence. "Go" is part of a construction I will discuss later. The main verb of #2 is "love," and in #3, it is "like."
"DDR" is still being used as a verb (though not the main verb) in the 2nd and 3rd examples. The verb exists in its infinitive form, constructed by "to" + "[verb]."** In the first sentence, you're still forgetting that "DDR" is an abbreviation for "Dance Dance Revolution." While techinically incorrect (redundancy), the 2 instances of "Dance" are adjectives modifying the noun, "Revolution." So, taking the unnecessary modifiers out, the sentence would read "Let's go Revolution." This is obviously incorrect when reading it. "Go" is an interesting verb, in that it cannot be directly followed by anything except a verb or prepositional phrase. "Let's go play," or "Let's go with haste," are good examples of this.
**This infinitive is obviously fundamentally flawed for the same reason as the first sentence (abbreviation meaning). You cannot say "To Revolution" in order to form a verb, as an infinitive requires "to" and a VERB. "To revolution" can only exist as a prepositional phrase, as in, "Let us lead the people to revolution."
Seriously, people, just let it be. You can't use "DDR" as a verb and have it correctly fall within the English parameters of grammar. _________________
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xxPinkeh Trick Member
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23. Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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Meh. like I said rules are meant to be broken....
So, maybe I don't know how to use DDR as a verb, but it sounds good. |
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Synaesthesia Trick Member
Joined: 03 Apr 2005 Location: Crushing all deceivers, smashing non-believers |
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xxPinkeh Trick Member
Joined: 17 Apr 2005 Location: around. *shrug* |
25. Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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Synaesthesia wrote: | xxPinkeh wrote: |
So, maybe I don't know how to use DDR as a verb, but it sounds good. |
Nyanko Pudding wrote: | ... it (using a noun as a verb) sounds really stupid. |
How "correct" it sounds is apparently directly proportional to your own cognizance/usage of grammar... |
Its one of those opinionated things I guess.... you do it or you don't. There are some people who will use it, regardless of whether they know that it is incorrect or not, and there are some people who won't use it regardless. Crap. o.o Someone who might even know its not proper grammar would use it... like me. XD; I guess it all depends.
Like.. some people will say Yo, whattup? You may not like when people say that, but you know what it means. All you'd have to do is refrain from using it yourself.
Also what you said before about the verbs and the adjectives.... o_o that makes sense.... but then again, using DDR as a verb for me might not sound too off, seeing as English isn't my first language. |
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LegendaryR56 Trick Member
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26. Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 12:07 am Post subject: |
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i alawys say i am ddrin it up when i am playing ddr. |
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neveza Trick Member
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27. Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 12:17 am Post subject: |
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[quote="LegendaryR56"]i alawys say i am ddrin it up when i am playing ddr.[/quote]
I bet you sound like a redneck when you say that lol unless you are lol
I dont use it as a verb I say I play DDR or I am going to play DDR. I never really see the point in making it into a verb. _________________
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Julie QQQ...? Trick Member
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28. Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2005 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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"A descriptive grammar looks at the way a language is actually used by its speakers and then attempts to analyse it and formulate rules about the structure. Descriptive grammar does not deal with what is good or bad language use; forms and structures that might not be used by speakers of Standard English would be regarded as valid and included. It is a grammar based on the way a language actually is and not how some think it should be."
I'm usually a hard-hitting member of the grammar police (although I usually seethe quietly in the corner while everyone else does their part in pointing out mistakes), and I always did well in it in school. Still, sometimes I think other things override grammar, and that'd be the linguistic police. While everyone here seems to be pointing out the presecriptive aspect of grammar (as the textbooks dictate in English class), I'm going to play the devil's advocate and argue the case of descriptive grammar, which is definitely a lot more useful to a beginning linguistics student such as myself.
Usually the only time I'll use it in a verb context would be present progressive ("I'm DDRing today, wanna come?") or the present perfect progressive ("I've been DDRing all week. and I'm broke as hell.") Anything else coming out of my mouth just sounds plain stupid.
Syn, while you're grammatically correct, I'd have to respectfully disagree. "Let's DDR" is the first person plural imperative constructed with Let (verb) + us (noun) + [insert infinitive verb here]. Your logic is saying that DDR is not by any means an infinitive verb, which grammatically it isn't. However, when taking the vernacular and slang into consideration, people use it in a verb form, and I'm gonna let them without being too nitpicky.
Linguistically, it's a phenomenon known as back-formation. In back-formation, the constant use of a word in the vernacular could cause another grammatical form that becomes widely accepted into the lexicon as correct. For instance, the word "burglar" means "a person who steals from someone else", but over time, the verb "to burgle" was derived from this. Many words are formed like this, and I think if someone would like to define "DDR" the abbreviation as a verb, by all means, they can. It doesn't sound awkward, and it's already used quite a bit by people so its more accepted, the first signs of accepted back-formation.
Oi vey. This is what happens when Julie Q is home bored on a Saturday night after a vacation in Hawaii when she didn't have to think too hard. Yikes! |
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Synaesthesia Trick Member
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29. Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2005 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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Very true; were it not for the phenomena which you have described, there probably wouldn't be such a thing as slang in the first place. It's not as though I would call someone on their slang usage of "DDR" at the arcade; I doubt anyone is going to have the patience to listen to my explanation of proper verb construction. My point was that, in formal English, it couldn't be used as a verb (as in, you wouldn't use it in an English paper without losing points for grammar).** It's not my cup of sake to use a great deal of slang (including descriptive grammar, back-formation, and all that jazz) in my speaking, but I wouldn't hold it against anyone unless what they said became completely unintelligible.
Conclusion: It isn't appropriate for formal English, it's accepted for informal conversation and such.
**Unless you were quoting someone, or another appropriate anomaly. <--I'm alliterative! _________________
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Julie QQQ...? Trick Member
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30. Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2005 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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Okay, well so I guess it's a simple case of "I say tomato, you say tomahto".
Still, if you bust out the phrase "I did better than he" in your verbal speech, as grammatically correct as that may be, I might have to kick you in the face.
(PS - Descriptive grammar isn't as informal as you may think it is. Every language, no matter how "wrong" it may be by prescriptive standards, is rule-governed. Take a linguistics course if you haven't already; you may really, really enjoy it.)
(PPS - Isn't "Dance Dance" kind of grammatically incorrect and redundant, when you really think about it? ) |
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PedanticOmbudsman Trick Member
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31. Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 8:56 am Post subject: |
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This is a great thread.
Now let's analyze my favorite quote from Beatmania:
"We expect you a nice play again."
Go ahead, try to make sense of that one. It's the ultimate unsolvable riddle: the more you think about, the less sense it makes. |
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Synaesthesia Trick Member
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32. Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 9:14 am Post subject: |
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It's just a bad Engrish translation. I like this site for its unintended hilarity in translations, but, from reading it often, it's easy to see what is first to be lost in translation. It sounds like other screw-ups, but I'm not exactly sure how to describe it (my linguistic knowledge extends as far as what is acceptable for Mrs. O'Bryant's research papers). _________________
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BUTTS47 Trick Member
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33. Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 9:56 am Post subject: |
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I know using DDR as a verb isn't correct in a grammar sense, but I will contintue to say things like, " Lets go DDR " and "I've been DDRING all day" until the day i pass on. |
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Darkicarus Trick Member
Joined: 19 Feb 2005 Location: Hudson valley playing DDR |
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mydixiewrecked Trick Member
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35. Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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Synaesthesia wrote: | Seriously, people, just let it be. You can't use "DDR" as a verb and have it correctly fall within the English parameters of grammar. |
"I DDR in my spare time.", seems like an acceptable sentence to me. DDR obviously wasn't originally intended to be a verb, but if it means: "To play Dance Dance Revolution", then I don't see any reason why you can't use it here. |
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PedanticOmbudsman Trick Member
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36. Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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I kayak...
I samba...
I go-kart...
I vacation...
I tango...
Those are all nouns can be verbs instead when it's convenient for them to be. They're just simpler and more appealing than "I paddle a kayak," "I dance the samba," "I ride a go-kart," "I go on vacation," and "I do the tango." |
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oO The Fly Oo Trick Member
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37. Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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It's not delivery.. It's the fly. |
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Raiv Xomby Trick Member
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38. Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:40 am Post subject: |
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C0m37 wrote: | if you say DDR with a korean accent, it means masterbation in Korean.
So i was in korean class, teacher asked us what we like to do on our free time, I said I play DDR with my friends(I said it in Korean), all the korean kids started laughing and the teacher looked at me disgusted. |
ROFL
I had a Korean exchange student in my geology class and talked to her a lot. Once she heard me telling my friends in class that I had gotten DDR for christmas and she stopped talking to me after that.
Wow. |
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naturally untalented Trick Member
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39. Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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oh the irony... beside the fact that many koreans are good at DDR... To the question, I love DDRing and just DDR'd last night and also use these terms everyday with my friends... good times |
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