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0. PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 1:24 pm    Post subject: Fitness mode = accurate? Reply with quote

Is the calorie counter on the fitness mode accurate, because I'm finding it difficult to believe that one can burn 168 calories playing Pandemonium medium. the most I've ever burned playing DDR was 65...
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1. PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was most likely had a decimal off. You are more likely to have lost 16.8 calories.
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2. PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heheh... My sister found that if you set your weight to 5 pounds, it's a lot more accurate.
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3. PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 2:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Fitness mode = accurate? Reply with quote

Ryudori wrote:
Is the calorie counter on the fitness mode accurate, because I'm finding it difficult to believe that one can burn 168 calories playing Pandemonium medium. the most I've ever burned playing DDR was 65...


then yoru playing hte wrong DDR songs ive burned 80 playing heavy in the navy before
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4. PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 2:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Fitness mode = accurate? Reply with quote

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Ryudori wrote:
Is the calorie counter on the fitness mode accurate, because I'm finding it difficult to believe that one can burn 168 calories playing Pandemonium medium. the most I've ever burned playing DDR was 65...


then yoru playing hte wrong DDR songs ive burned 80 playing heavy in the navy before


Or he's a hell of a lot lighter than you are.
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5. PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

none of those figures are really that accurate. I know for sure that VERY few if not no one at all can burn over 100 calories in 2 minutes by just stomping.

I also know that one can rack up the calorie meter and not spend much energy at all. I can play Healing Vision (angelic mix) and not even get winded just by barely moving.. I sure as HECK didn't just burn over 100 calories.


Not that it's a big deal. it's fun to watch anyway...
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6. PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apex wrote:
none of those figures are really that accurate. I know for sure that VERY few if not no one at all can burn over 100 calories in 2 minutes by just stomping.


concidering that 100 calories is about 1/30 of a pound and the actual distance you ar emoving its not far out of wack from running
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7. PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is worth doing research on... anybody know how calorie use is even measured?

I'm pretty sure things ike swimming and running can burn around sixty calories per minute, so 100 calories on pandy expert seems pretty reasonable.
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This is worth doing research on... anybody know how calorie use is even measured?

I'm pretty sure things ike swimming and running can burn around sixty calories per minute, so 100 calories on pandy expert seems pretty reasonable.


the calorie is a measuemnt of heat dissipation (the amount of heat needed to raise one gram of water one dregree celcious in one atmosphere food calories are also knonw as kilocalories on the reasoning that they are 1000 regular calories
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9. PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't spend too much time analyzing the ITG calorie counter, since Plaguefox admitted there's a bug in it.
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10. PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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mtwieg wrote:
This is worth doing research on... anybody know how calorie use is even measured?

I'm pretty sure things ike swimming and running can burn around sixty calories per minute, so 100 calories on pandy expert seems pretty reasonable.


the calorie is a measuemnt of heat dissipation (the amount of heat needed to raise one gram of water one dregree celcious in one atmosphere food calories are also knonw as kilocalories on the reasoning that they are 1000 regular calories

oh, so you could just put someone in a giant calimeter, right? But how do you come up with numbers for sports that can't be dome in an calimeter?
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11. PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I wouldn't spend too much time analyzing the ITG calorie counter, since Plaguefox admitted there's a bug in it.
Link, please.
I'm just curious.
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12. PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mtwieg wrote:
I'm pretty sure things ike swimming and running can burn around sixty calories per minute, so 100 calories on pandy expert seems pretty reasonable.


Like hell.

For a 200 pound person:
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Running 10 miles per hour - 32 calories per minute
Swimming - max of 22 calories/minute depending on stroke & intensity

Burning 100 calories in 2 minutes would (for a 200-pound person) be equivalent of running at 16 miles per hour for that entire two minutes -- i.e. impossible. For a 150-pound person, burning 100 calories in 2 minutes would be equivalent to running 21 miles per hour for the entire two minutes -- i.e. even more impossible.

Just personally, I find DDR-style dancing to be similar in exertion level to be running at about 6 miles per hour for an equal period of time. If this is accurate (I'll be doing some more tests with a threadmill and a heartrate monitor in gather supporting evidence) then a 1.5-minute DDR song would be about 23 calories for a 150-pound person (about 30 calories for a 200-pound person), and a 2-minute ITG song would be about 30 or 40. It will of course depend on the intensity of the song, but I seriously doubt that it would be much more than that.
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13. PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 5:47 am    Post subject: Re: Fitness mode = accurate? Reply with quote

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then yoru playing hte wrong DDR songs ive burned 80 playing heavy in the navy before


Wow, how'd you manage that? The song I was alluding to was So Deep heavy...
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VxJasonxV wrote:
Sinistar wrote:
I wouldn't spend too much time analyzing the ITG calorie counter, since Plaguefox admitted there's a bug in it.
Link, please.
I'm just curious.


Yeah, I should have linked it from the start, but here you go.
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15. PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh yes, I remember reading that now. Thank you Sinistar.
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16. PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sinistar wrote:
I wouldn't spend too much time analyzing the ITG calorie counter, since Plaguefox admitted there's a bug in it.


Have we heard anything from Plaguefox about a possible work around for the bug?

Or barring that, I'm to the point now that I wish there was a way to just shut the calorie counter off. I love random endless mode for workouts, but I would just as soon have the standard score percentage counter up there or empty space. Either would be an improvement.
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He hasn't posted anything further on the ITG forums. I've not tried to contact him directly.
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