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60. PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what is RAW?
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61. PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tsuri wrote:
People say it's the hardest song ever in any dance game but I say Canon-D on PIU Exceed 2 matches it pretty much.... also Vertex is HARDER damnit... those mines kill the hell out of you... Pandemonium just asks one question : Do you have enough stamina to pass me... Vertex asks a lot... can you avoid these mines? Can you hit these steps at 600BPM? Do you have the stamina?

You are just wrong.
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62. PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The MAXimizer wrote:
what is RAW?


Uh, read. This has already been stated IIRC.

RAW is a "song" on Exceed 2 that is unlockable for play by S-ing two remix songs. It's a song for doubles or "freestyle mode" on PIU. It's basically a little note from Andamiro thanking a company that they had done business with that helped them make a couple of their mixes (F2, I believe).

It's quite difficult as it wasn't meant to be played really. Fail is off so you can "read" the whole message. I believe it is 42 seconds in length and is a cut from the Exceed 2 theme song or demo music.

The only people to have passed it that I know of is a team of five people from South America which I believe is known notoriously for their skill in Pump.
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63. PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

St00pidBaka // BluR wrote:


The only people to have passed it that I know of is a team of five people from South America which I believe is known notoriously for their skill in Pump.


ive got the video of two and im stull sure ive heard of a single person do it


still way harder than pandy too
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St00pidBaka // BluR wrote:


The only people to have passed it that I know of is a team of five people from South America which I believe is known notoriously for their skill in Pump.


ive got the video of two and im stull sure ive heard of a single person do it


still way harder than pandy too


I have the video of the two people, but for some reason it cuts out right before the numbers come up for judgement so I dunno what their score was.

I find it seriously hard to believe that a single person passed it. If it was some random person in a message board then it's probably BS.
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65. PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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sorry to switch away from this brawl... on the home version instruction booklet, on page 17, it shows a picture of a records book i read

Pandemonium EASY MEDIUM HARD EXPERT

98.30 95.70 96.15 97.29

anyone know anything about this? could this be photoshopped or hacked or is there some god at roxor or redoctane that wont go public?


I also noticed this and i went and tryed it on the controller but i had to play it on the D pad. When i tryed it on the buttons it didnt work.?!?!?!
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Koolkat of SMITE! wrote:
Tsuri wrote:
People say it's the hardest song ever in any dance game but I say Canon-D on PIU Exceed 2 matches it pretty much.... also Vertex is HARDER damnit... those mines kill the hell out of you... Pandemonium just asks one question : Do you have enough stamina to pass me... Vertex asks a lot... can you avoid these mines? Can you hit these steps at 600BPM? Do you have the stamina?

You are just wrong.

Have you even the step chart to it?
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67. PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RAW is only hard because it's stupid, though. Canon-D nightmare and Energizer double expert have crazy runs around the pads and stuff like that. RAW is just not meant to be played, with 10-arrow holds and stuff like that. If it's difficult, it's a gimmicky sort of difficult. I think it'd be passable by one person, but not full-comboable, if they memorized it, basically got down on all fours for the whole song, and did crazy, stupid stuff. Meanwhile, the ACTUAL hard songs are difficult because there aren't any gimmicks. They're just straight-up difficult.
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MAAAX_HIMSELF wrote:
Danamaf wrote:
sorry to switch away from this brawl... on the home version instruction booklet, on page 17, it shows a picture of a records book i read

Pandemonium EASY MEDIUM HARD EXPERT

98.30 95.70 96.15 97.29

anyone know anything about this? could this be photoshopped or hacked or is there some god at roxor or redoctane that wont go public?


I also noticed this and i went and tryed it on the controller but i had to play it on the D pad. When i tryed it on the buttons it didnt work.?!?!?!


You have to go to Options and put the setting to controller.
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Well I watched the video of the 2 people playing RAW, and there is no proof at all that they passed. RAW has autofail off so that you can just sit back and read the AM THNX FV XII or whatever it says. You would be surprised how well you have to do to not fail it. Notice how the camera stops right before the nice fat "F" comes on the screen? And I guarantee you that no one will EVER, EVER even come close to passing RAW by themself.
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Well I watched the video of the 2 people playing RAW, and there is no proof at all that they passed. RAW has autofail off so that you can just sit back and read the AM THNX FV XII or whatever it says. You would be surprised how well you have to do to not fail it. Notice how the camera stops right before the nice fat "F" comes on the screen? And I guarantee you that no one will EVER, EVER even come close to passing RAW by themself.


just figure out the step qualities they got a D


and i think its only a matter of timme till people pass it single and everyone quits bitching
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71. PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

on the subject of RAW.

Me, [KOS]Flash, and Qkumbr are passing RAW in July, so we can be cool like the Brazillians.
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[quote="Rancidfish"]
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What if a song like Pandemonium had, rather than the jumps like it currently has, quick sets of 1/16ths (which would, in this theoretical new 14, follow the music). These wouldn't be full-blown 1/16th runs, they'd just be quick two-arrow drills (like LDL) to mix up the runs. That would add a significant challenge, and would also be more rhythmically interesting than just straight 1/8th note runs.


you mean like in tension? I don't think many people liked those.

And summer, IMO, is a terrible stepchart. Smiley's music just doesn't make good material for hard songs. Summer basically looks like a combination between delerium's streams and euphoria's excessive chaos.
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KimonoThief wrote:
Well I watched the video of the 2 people playing RAW, and there is no proof at all that they passed. RAW has autofail off so that you can just sit back and read the AM THNX FV XII or whatever it says. You would be surprised how well you have to do to not fail it. Notice how the camera stops right before the nice fat "F" comes on the screen? And I guarantee you that no one will EVER, EVER even come close to passing RAW by themself.


just figure out the step qualities they got a D


and i think its only a matter of timme till people pass it single and everyone quits bitching



It doesn't even give you enough time to see the "step qualities". However, they clearly got too many misses to pass. Take it from a Pump Nightmare player, nobody will ever pass RAW alone.
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74. PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just as a side note there is not a single step in summer that I've found that doesn't go to SOMETHING in the music. you just have to listen.

EDIT: as long as we are talking about theoretical 14s

http://bemanistyle.com/sims/simfile.php?id=8961

that's my first simfile (I've made many others since), and it uses the technique of high speed 16ths like Brother Mojo mentioned.
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75. PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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KimonoThief wrote:
Well I watched the video of the 2 people playing RAW, and there is no proof at all that they passed. RAW has autofail off so that you can just sit back and read the AM THNX FV XII or whatever it says. You would be surprised how well you have to do to not fail it. Notice how the camera stops right before the nice fat "F" comes on the screen? And I guarantee you that no one will EVER, EVER even come close to passing RAW by themself.


just figure out the step qualities they got a D


and i think its only a matter of timme till people pass it single and everyone quits bitching


Yeah, I saw the video and it seemed like they got a lot of misses, which is why I'm skeptical (and the fact that the video conveinently cuts out right before the grade comes up makes me suspicious).

Have you actually tried playing RAW? I've played it, and goddamn there's no way in hell that poopy is going to be passed single player anytime soon. With two people it's believeable (albeit still very difficult). The only way even come close to passing it Single Player is to more or less memorize exactly what should be hit, and what you can afford to give up in order to get a D. Theoretically it's possible, but it would take quite a long time and I don't think anyone is good enough to do it. Maybe in like a year or so someone may be able to beat it, but definitely not anytime soon.
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DJTyrant wrote:
Koolkat of SMITE! wrote:
Tsuri wrote:
People say it's the hardest song ever in any dance game but I say Canon-D on PIU Exceed 2 matches it pretty much.... also Vertex is HARDER damnit... those mines kill the hell out of you... Pandemonium just asks one question : Do you have enough stamina to pass me... Vertex asks a lot... can you avoid these mines? Can you hit these steps at 600BPM? Do you have the stamina?

You are just wrong.

Have you even the step chart to it?


I was just talking about VerTex, which is easy garbage when compared to Pandy. I don't know anything about PiU, yet I have a wierd sort of respect for it, since the different button layout makes my head asplode.
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Original Z wrote:
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KimonoThief wrote:
Well I watched the video of the 2 people playing RAW, and there is no proof at all that they passed. RAW has autofail off so that you can just sit back and read the AM THNX FV XII or whatever it says. You would be surprised how well you have to do to not fail it. Notice how the camera stops right before the nice fat "F" comes on the screen? And I guarantee you that no one will EVER, EVER even come close to passing RAW by themself.


just figure out the step qualities they got a D


and i think its only a matter of timme till people pass it single and everyone quits bitching


Yeah, I saw the video and it seemed like they got a lot of misses, which is why I'm skeptical (and the fact that the video conveinently cuts out right before the grade comes up makes me suspicious).

Have you actually tried playing RAW? I've played it, and goddamn there's no way in hell that poopy is going to be passed single player anytime soon. With two people it's believeable (albeit still very difficult). The only way even come close to passing it Single Player is to more or less memorize exactly what should be hit, and what you can afford to give up in order to get a D. Theoretically it's possible, but it would take quite a long time and I don't think anyone is good enough to do it. Maybe in like a year or so someone may be able to beat it, but definitely not anytime soon.



<<< EBT

no i havnt played it as

1. i o nly have acess to a PREX 3

and

2. i really suck at PIU

but the math adds up
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Elegant Bisexual Tramp wrote:
KimonoThief wrote:
Well I watched the video of the 2 people playing RAW, and there is no proof at all that they passed. RAW has autofail off so that you can just sit back and read the AM THNX FV XII or whatever it says. You would be surprised how well you have to do to not fail it. Notice how the camera stops right before the nice fat "F" comes on the screen? And I guarantee you that no one will EVER, EVER even come close to passing RAW by themself.


just figure out the step qualities they got a D


and i think its only a matter of timme till people pass it single and everyone quits bitching


Yeah, I saw the video and it seemed like they got a lot of misses, which is why I'm skeptical (and the fact that the video conveinently cuts out right before the grade comes up makes me suspicious).

Have you actually tried playing RAW? I've played it, and goddamn there's no way in hell that poopy is going to be passed single player anytime soon. With two people it's believeable (albeit still very difficult). The only way even come close to passing it Single Player is to more or less memorize exactly what should be hit, and what you can afford to give up in order to get a D. Theoretically it's possible, but it would take quite a long time and I don't think anyone is good enough to do it. Maybe in like a year or so someone may be able to beat it, but definitely not anytime soon.



<<< EBT

no i havnt played it as

1. i o nly have acess to a PREX 3

and

2. i really suck at PIU

but the math adds up


Aaah, you have a PREX3 to play? So lucky! I like Exceed 2 and all but PREX3 has Burning Krypt, one of my favorite songs!

I BE BURNING KRYPT TIL I GET TIRED! BURNING MY KRYPT TIL I RETIRE! DON'T TRIP UP IN HERE, CUZ I'M ON FIRE!

So sad to see it gone in Exceed.
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You Spork and I will be the first 3 people team (tm) to pass RAW... I promise. biggrin.gif
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