ITG crash bug found, workaround discovered

Wolfman Jake · Trick Member Joined: 13 Sep 2002

Reenee, do you mean that right after enabling the autosave option people's save files were corrupted? Or do you mean "active", and not "activated," in which people's save files just become corrupted at any point (possibly long after) autosave was enabled?

Anyway, I really wonder how many people have experienced save file corruption on MAX/MAX 2 without interupting the save process in some way. A majority of the people that I've seen report this problem admit that they weren't careful about waiting until the autosave message clears completely. Plus, remember that it can also damage your save file if you shut down the game without first exiting the song wheel.
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cfusionpm · Trick Member Joined: 24 Jan 2002 Location: San Diego, CA

Wolfman Jake · Trick Member Joined: 13 Sep 2002

I also wonder if it has anything to do with which PS2 version you are using. The earliest models to hit the US had all sorts of weird problems with memory cards and other hardware failures. Weren't their also some cases of memory card slots or controller ports actually shorting out?
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cfusionpm · Trick Member Joined: 24 Jan 2002 Location: San Diego, CA

well for mine, i had a first gen ps2 till about late 2001, when a mod chip installation was botched, and screwed it. to replace it, i got the gt3+ps2 bundle. so its still a decently early model. with about 4 years of hard use on it, i haven't had any problems with it yet.
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zaphod · Trick Member Joined: 23 Jan 2002 Location: Hayward, CA

Count me in on the people who've never had autosave issues with ddrmax.

For those who have troubles.

1) DDRMAX x autosaves after EVERY GAME, to update the high scores, the individual song high scores, etc. And if the entire game isn't unlocked, it updates the game counter. It's very easy to forget that the game is going to autosave.
2) always do soft power off first. hard poweroff is considered by Sony to be dangerous. This is an extra paranoid tip, but it may make a differnece.

NO, the games that give me trouble are ones that autosave during gameplay without pausing the game for it. like Spyro: A Heroes Tail. That gmae saves wayyyy too often too. every single time you die, it rewrites your save to the memory card! so you turn off ifn frustration and lose yor save.
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peepsluvr · Trick Member Joined: 09 Jan 2005

I've never had any problems with any of my games, ever. I guess it's just because of my habits. I wait until the title screen comes up and always do a soft turn off. The only glitches or anything I've had in my DDR US games was that in MAX sometimes it would display little numbers on the groove radar.

I HOPE KONAMI REMEMBERS TO PUT IN THE DANCE PLAYER OPTIONS IN DDR EXTREME 2 OR I WILL SEND THEM ANGRY E-MAILS! lol.

Ugh. The ONLY time in my life when I got corrupt game files was the holiday demo disc fiasco. Apparently, SONY sent out a demo disc that had a bug in the Viewtiful Joe demo that erased your memory card. I played it, the game reset, but I thought nothing about it. Later I realized my memory card got erased. A few days later, SONY decides to send out warning postcards about the demo, even though I already played it. Oh well, at least I got GT3 out of it for free.

Wolfman Jake · Trick Member Joined: 13 Sep 2002

Peepsluvr, that "glitch" you mentioned in DDRMAX is not a glitch at all. It's a hidden special code. If you continue to hold down the "Selection Button" (X, O, or Start should suffice for MAX US, I think) from when you chose your difficulty level until the song wheel appears, then the Groove Radar will show the actual numerical values for each rating.
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peepsluvr · Trick Member Joined: 09 Jan 2005

Oh, lol. I wonder why they put it in there?

Denz1220 · Basic Member Joined: 30 Apr 2005 Location: Tri Cities

It happened to my prehistoric DDR extreme home version after I have unlocked almost all songs. I dont recall it a bug. My fault too because I turned the ps2 off while it is saving.
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snickers1127â¶â · Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 7:58 pm Post subject:

All things considered, this bug could be a lot worse. There IS a way to recover your data **thanx Wolfman** and it could have been a more popular sort option (i.e. alphabetical). It's not something that will get in the way of my gameplay, so it's all good.

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z-Nyte · Trick Member Joined: 08 Jul 2002 Location: Knoxville, TN

Sirfrummel · Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 3:49 pm Post subject:

Okay... for this bug in ITG... what exactly do you have to do for it to corrupt your save?

I probably just missed something somewhere, as they posted the fix, but I'm not sure exactly what happens to corrupt the save game.
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z-Nyte · Trick Member Joined: 08 Jul 2002 Location: Knoxville, TN

Basically. If you go to the options menu and set the default sort to TOPGRADE. It will crash the game and corrupt your save when you try to play.

That sort option is not selectable in-game when you press up/down/up/down/up/down to bring in the sort wheel.

Just don't select TOPGRADE as your default sort via the options menu and you will have a perfectly good game.
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Reenee · Trick Member Joined: 21 Nov 2003

It DOES NOT corrupt your save. The data is perfectly preserved. It just changes some piece of data that the game can't understand. Roxor either left out something (the TOPGRADE sort itself) or forgot to remove it.

If it truly were corrupt, then luck of recovering data would be a factor.

Cutriss · Staff Member Joined: 24 Jan 2002

I know it's not actually corrupting it, but for most laypeople, that's the easiest way to tell them what's going on.
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