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i just started playing DDR about 1 1/2 weeks ago. i have a couple of problems when it comes to getting better. i have already started to make A's on heavy but i am having trouble with the harder 8 footer and 9 footer songs.

i too am a firm believer of reading the arrows and i dont try to memorize songs. so does anyone know some songs off of ultramix 2 for Xbox i can try where i need to alternate my feet on the arrows?

also, i can't seem to find anyone better than me except atthe mall and the people who play there are really intimidating. what should i do? i am an open kind of person, but i don't know how they are.
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high_stepper203 wrote:
i just started playing DDR about 1 1/2 weeks ago. i have a couple of problems when it comes to getting better. i have already started to make A's on heavy but i am having trouble with the harder 8 footer and 9 footer songs.

i too am a firm believer of reading the arrows and i dont try to memorize songs. so does anyone know some songs off of ultramix 2 for Xbox i can try where i need to alternate my feet on the arrows?

also, i can't seem to find anyone better than me except atthe mall and the people who play there are really intimidating. what should i do? i am an open kind of person, but i don't know how they are.


Hi,

I can't say off hand which songs you could do because I don't have an X-Box. But you could always just use the shuffle mod. Though you won't always get crossovers, you'll have to alternate and/or double step. It'll be hard for a while, though if you can get the hange of shuffle then you'll be set for the harder songs when they come along. Also you'll learn some valueble skills from it too happy.gif

As for the mall, just go up to the people and talk to them. Maybe ask them their name, how long they've been playing, if they can give you any advice, or just chit chat. Those are all things that I do. Whether or not they are better than you, it should come down to having fun and maybe getting some pointers. Though if they're a butt about it, then you know that they act in that kind of disgracing manner; and that they won't help and/or give you advice.

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i will go see maybe this saturday and try to be nice about things. but how do i step when i get a left down right down left or vice versa pattern? i kinda do a shuffling kinda move with my feet right now. is that right?

thanks for the advice btw nerd.gif
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high_stepper203 wrote:
i will go see maybe this saturday and try to be nice about things. but how do i step when i get a left down right down left or vice versa pattern? i kinda do a shuffling kinda move with my feet right now. is that right?

thanks for the advice btw nerd.gif


Doing that while learning is "ok" - a lot of people do that, but it's good to learn how to "cross-over" which is basically turning your body sideways to the left or the right, and hitting the arrow pattern you mentioned using your left foot for left and right arrows, and your right foot for the down arrows - or vice versa (left foot on down, right foot hitting left and right arrows).
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ok thanks i will try to do it.whats someinfamous crossover songs for any system? because myt friend just got it for PS2 plus my Xbox version has a good bit of songs found on the PS2.

also how can you guys read the arrows on the slow heavy songs when they are extremely close and likebunched together you know?

if needed i will name a song this happens in.
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high_stepper203 wrote:
ok thanks i will try to do it.whats someinfamous crossover songs for any system? because myt friend just got it for PS2 plus my Xbox version has a good bit of songs found on the PS2.

also how can you guys read the arrows on the slow heavy songs when they are extremely close and likebunched together you know?

if needed i will name a song this happens in.


For songs, if you could tell us which versions you have, that'd be great. Then we can name off songs for you to practice.

Now for the reading arrows, either go into training, read the step charts here at ddrfreak, and/or use a speed mod. I don't know if that's what you guys want though. Though if you want to be able to read 1x, then I'd say to use the 1.5x mod until you get it down, then learn it on 1x.

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Any tips on improving endurance? I'm not in great physical shape (I'm like, 15-20 lb. overweight), but I can almost A Tsugaru on Heavy except for the part after galloping (wher there's a lot of crossovers and eigths and stuff). If I had more endurance, i could pull it off, I've changed my diet and started walking/jogging and I go swimming everyday. Any more tips to increase endurance?
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M-dawg and/or Hair wrote:
high_stepper203 wrote:
i will go see maybe this saturday and try to be nice about things. but how do i step when i get a left down right down left or vice versa pattern? i kinda do a shuffling kinda move with my feet right now. is that right?

thanks for the advice btw nerd.gif


Doing that while learning is "ok" - a lot of people do that, but it's good to learn how to "cross-over" which is basically turning your body sideways to the left or the right, and hitting the arrow pattern you mentioned using your left foot for left and right arrows, and your right foot for the down arrows - or vice versa (left foot on down, right foot hitting left and right arrows).


I'm not the only one with this problem! Thank god!

I have that problem on Can't Stop Falling in Love (Speed Mix) on Heavy.
http://www.ddrfreak.com/stepcharts/stepchart.php?song=cantspeed&mode=Single&difficulty=Maniac&code=Normal&Submit=Submit

At the start and at random points through the song they have that, but it's moving at 340 bpm counting the halfsteps. I tried training mode and I was doing left on left arrows, right on right arrows, and alternating left and right on up and down arrows. I think it is the same awkward shuffling motion that high_stepper was talking about.

It's awsome that my question was anwsered within the first 10 posts of the thread!

Kthxbai! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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I'm on standard/heavy. I've completed many challenge modes though. But I still need to work on my galloping riiight.gif
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M-dawg and/or Hair wrote:
high_stepper203 wrote:
i will go see maybe this saturday and try to be nice about things. but how do i step when i get a left down right down left or vice versa pattern? i kinda do a shuffling kinda move with my feet right now. is that right?

thanks for the advice btw nerd.gif


Doing that while learning is "ok" - a lot of people do that, but it's good to learn how to "cross-over" which is basically turning your body sideways to the left or the right, and hitting the arrow pattern you mentioned using your left foot for left and right arrows, and your right foot for the down arrows - or vice versa (left foot on down, right foot hitting left and right arrows).


Its called "double stepping" its not bad and crossing over/pivots doesnt mean much. You could pivot HVAM or you could double step and at times Double stepping is easier. what ever gets you perfects.
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Learn how to cross over - it makes lots of songs easier and less draining. When you get to PS/PSM, guess what you'll need... crossovers! It's good to get used to them now, even on quarter notes or slower songs.
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Hi, I'm currently working on my pa skills, can usually AA / high A 7-8 foot songs pretty consistantly, but with a high amount of greats (pushes me from the AA down to A). I know the best way to improve is practice but I particularly have trouble with a couple kind of notes. Long runs of two arrows (such as the up left run of 16ths in superstar) and jump-step 8th notes (like in Stoic). For the two arrow runs I can usually pa the first 4-5 fairly well but it goes down hill from there with greats and good. Step jump step ectd. combinations I can usually get the first part whether it be a step or a jump, but after that I have trouble getting back on track and usually get greats/good for a while. The ones where I get non-combos on are the LR jump then a U ectd. where the step is on a different arrow than the jumps. LR jump then L isn't too hard usually. Thanks.
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hey, im pretty good at DDR i can do almost all standerd song and a few heavey's...but i have a lot of trouble doing fast arrows with one leg because i can do stuff like L R D but not DD or stuff like that...... riiight.gif [/quote][/i][/b]
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Jack, a method I've found that works pretty well with repeaters is the heel-toe method. Hit it with your toe/heel, then switch, then switch back and forth from heel to toe.
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that wont work as well because some peoples feet arent as big as others,
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that wont work as well because some peoples feet arent as big as others,


Size of the foot doesn't always matter, but how you use this ability. It does work, but I think I might have a different image of the heel-toe. Also, there are (I think) 2 ways of heel-toeing. This is very useful if you can do it as it can get to you conserve stamina on songs like: PS, PSM, PSMO, Max 300, MaxX, and LoM.

I'll see if I can come up with a better explaination another time, as I have to be heading home. Oh though, as for your comment, the way I'm thinking about it, I think you may be right for that method. Sorry for being so vague riiight.gif

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Emorgasm wrote:
Learn how to cross over - it makes lots of songs easier and less draining. When you get to PS/PSM, guess what you'll need... crossovers! It's good to get used to them now, even on quarter notes or slower songs.

This is what I myself came here to ask about. Im tackling PS and the death run is just too much to double step. I was wondering if anyone had any basic tips or reccomendations for way to practice crossovers.
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The best way to figure out your crossovers is to take a song with a lot of them, such as exotic ethnic or tsugaru, and play it on training mode on a home console, with the music speed at 1 or 2. As you play, you will notice that there are parts that are difficult to play because your feet aren't in the proper postition, such as left.gif down.gif right.gif down.gif left.gif up.gif right.gif up.gif . These patterns are where crossovers will become useful. The proper foot placement for this pattern would be (L=left foot, R=right foot):

left.gifL down.gifR right.gifL down.gifR left.gifL up.gifR right.gifL up.gifR

The more you practice these steps, the easier it will become to identify them.
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