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Trifthen
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420.  Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 7:35 pm Post subject: Re: Arcade mod... |
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| theheter0c1ite wrote: | | Shiny metal is very expensive. Sexy shiny metal is what we all want. They know that! Do you know how expensive these mods would be if they sold them out of that diamond plate? |
What? Who needs diamond plate? That guy made his mod using diamond plate because he liked how it looked. But a couple "made from scratch" pads use regular aluminum flashing - the same kind you would use to make duct-work for your house. It's metal, it's not too thick, and you can put it on top of something more substantial if you need extra thickness. You can get 50-foot lengths of it for $30. I think I mentioned it in an earlier post - just get some aluminum flashing, cut it to fit, and mount it on top of Cobalt Flux's ugly mod. You'll only need 10-feet of flashing, and you might be able to get a 10-foot roll for less than $10. Hehe.
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Chilly Cha Cha
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| 421. Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 7:59 am Post subject: |
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| Akisoma wrote: | | But I would like to know, could someone post all the bad things they have encountered with it? Whether minor or major, I am not too handy, and if something breaks, I may not be the best to fix it. I want the CF because it sounds like it has great durability and performance. However I want to know any of the little bad things about it are. |
One thing I have not seen discussed a lot is the problem I encounter - I am a very frequent player at home (in fact I have never played an arcade machine). I play 5-7 days/week and probably average 1-2 hours/session - very often all or most on heavy.
I have experienced a problem most often with my "up" arrow - although occassionally with the side arrows (and maybe once with the back - I can't recall) - I got my pads (double pack) in mid-December '04.
What will happen is that the sheet metal under the lexan will "reverse" bow, causing the arrow to not fire during game play because it is already in a constant pressed position, and continuously fire in song select screen.
The only fix I have for this is to remove the lexan, slowly remove the sheet metal from the velcro - "rebow" it by bending it in the opposite direction. Then I screw everything back into place - I do NOT stomp (except with the occassional jackhammers - and then, only when I am tired). Unfortunately, I am starting to worry about the screw holes stripping on the up arrows - but it has not happened yet. This happens as often as once every 10-14 days, and has happened since I first got the pads. I have tried loosening the screws a 1/4 to 1/2 turn, but that actually seemed to make it worse.
Anyway - the fix works fine and it is then problem free until the next incident - just something to be aware of.
Actually, I am curious - does anyone else experience this? |
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Trifthen
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| 422. Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 8:10 am Post subject: |
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| Chilly Cha Cha wrote: | | This happens as often as once every 10-14 days, and has happened since I first got the pads. I have tried loosening the screws a 1/4 to 1/2 turn, but that actually seemed to make it worse. |
I haven't noticed that particular problem, but part of what you're experiencing might be that your screws are too loose. Cobalt Flux pads work by tightening the screws past the velcro, causing the sides to bend down, and the lucite/metal center of the arrow bow up. When you step on the pad, you're unbowing the lucite and connecting the sheet-metal contacts. If your screws are too loose, the center of the panel won't be high enough to remain disconnected.
If worse comes to worse, you may have to replace that sheet of metal if it's actually bending inwards instead of maintaining a consistent bow along with the lucite.
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Sinistar
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Chilly Cha Cha
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| 424. Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 8:58 am Post subject: |
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| Trifthen wrote: | I haven't noticed that particular problem, but part of what you're experiencing might be that your screws are too loose. Cobalt Flux pads work by tightening the screws past the velcro, causing the sides to bend down, and the lucite/metal center of the arrow bow up. When you step on the pad, you're unbowing the lucite and connecting the sheet-metal contacts. If your screws are too loose, the center of the panel won't be high enough to remain disconnected.
If worse comes to worse, you may have to replace that sheet of metal if it's actually bending inwards instead of maintaining a consistent bow along with the lucite. |
I keep the screws as tight as possible now since the failed experiment with loosening them. The thing is, I switch back and forth between the two pads (unless I am playing doubles) and if it were the sheet metal, I would expect it to happen only on one of the pads, and then on only one of the arrows. However, this has happened on both pads and on multiple arrows (at the very least, for both pads, both the up arrow and right foot arrow have experienced this more than once). The screws are tight enough that the lexan panels are bowed convexly (and the scews will not go in any further) - Again - when I did try loosening them, it seemed to happen more frequently. I am actually surprised, as it has happened to me often enough that I would have expected others to have experienced this. I play in socks - not sneakers - and weigh approx. 195 lbs.
** Edit - Sinistar - yes, you are correct that it does (that's how I found the fix) - I just thought that more people would have experienced this, but curiously I don't see any evidence from people posting. |
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Trifthen
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| 425. Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 9:21 am Post subject: |
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| Chilly Cha Cha wrote: | | I am actually surprised, as it has happened to me often enough that I would have expected others to have experienced this. I play in socks - not sneakers - and weigh approx. 195 lbs. |
Well ya got me, then. I play as often as you do, and throw DDR parties at my house, to boot. My pads get their asses handed to them regularly and seem to work ok for all the abuse. One guy who plays on my pads weighs 270lbs. I'll admit that I'm only 140lbs, and I'm the person who primarily wails on the pads with 9 or 10-footers for 10 hours a week. I'll keep an eye out for this though.
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Chilly Cha Cha
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| 426. Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 9:42 am Post subject: |
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| Trifthen wrote: | | Well ya got me, then. I play as often as you do, and throw DDR parties at my house, to boot. My pads get their asses handed to them regularly and seem to work ok for all the abuse. One guy who plays on my pads weighs 270lbs. I'll admit that I'm only 140lbs, and I'm the person who primarily wails on the pads with 9 or 10-footers for 10 hours a week. I'll keep an eye out for this though. |
Don't get me wrong though - not complaining - just responding to the question above about CF issues - at worst this is a minor annoyance - it takes less than 5 minutes to fix and can actually give me a brief rest.
I love my CFs and would HIGHLY recommend them to anyone.
BTW - I have occasional DDR parties too - but I am very selective about who I let use my CFs  - usually I'll take out my old RO Ignition. |
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Trifthen
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| 427. Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 10:42 am Post subject: |
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| Chilly Cha Cha wrote: | | BTW - I have occasional DDR parties too - but I am very selective about who I let use my CFs - usually I'll take out my old RO Ignition. |
Hahaha. Well, I'd whip out my old Ignitions too, but I have my CF's set up for doubles, and they're such a huge PITA to move, I figure it's just easier to leave them. Every Thursday, people come to my house to watch Anime, and we play DDR for about an hour after that's over. Two of those people are above 250lbs, but then again, they only play Standard mode. I wonder what they'll say after I buy the arcade conversion kit - probably think I bought new pads yet again. Hehe.
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| 428. Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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| I plan on modding my CF myself, and the first thing I want is recessed buttons. I know.. they're coming out with recess mods, but I want metal ones to look more like the arcade, I don't want their cheezy plastic ones with bad brackets. So don't like, try telling me to just buy those. What I really am interested in knowing is the dimensions of the arcade recess. I heard the lowered-ness is 1/4th of an inch. Does anyone know for sure how far the recess is? Also, I'm adding a bar. If someone could direct me to bar information... or just give me bar info, lemme know. Ya know how its in the center of like, a large metal plate that comes off the back of the dance platform, its like 4 or 5 inches larger than all of the frame, can anyone give me exact dimentions for that? And how far in the bar is? I really wanna make my fluxe similar to an arcade experience. Thanks! |
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Akisoma
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| 429. Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 11:42 am Post subject: |
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QUESTION:
Does this website use UPS to ship? Because they charge insane brokerage fees. Anyone else in Canada purchase one and get it shipped by UPS?
This is really important, or I may not even consider the CF anymore.
It already comes to $346.44 alone with shipping. I don't need another $100.00 thrown into that because of damn UPS.
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Thomas Hobbes
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| 430. Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 11:50 am Post subject: |
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I believe they ship using Fed Ex.
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NegFactor
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| 431. Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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If someone could tell me (or point me in the direction to a link of) the dimensions of a CF pad for width and length, I'd be greatly appreciative. I've been considering getting one, but I'd have to reorganize my room to hold it properly. There's also the distinct possibility that I might already be able to house it where my regular dance pad is...I'd just like confirmation though, to be safe. 
Also, does anyone know the approximate weight of a CF pad? |
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Sinistar
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Spike357
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| 433. Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Modkit is now on sale here. |
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Thomas Hobbes
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| 434. Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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What's the difference between the type one and type two brackets?
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| 435. Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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| St00pidBaka // BluR wrote: | | What's the difference between the type one and type two brackets? |
Looks to me like the type one cover the four panels touching, and the type two only cover the raised sections. |
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Allusedup
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| 437. Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 10:38 am Post subject: |
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I just bought the doubles kit with the clear mod kits and type 2 brackets.
I have played DDR Extreme on CF pads at my parents house, but got lost sometimes, and also triggered the back 2 buttons when I was trying to hit the side arrows. When I get my pads and the mod kits, I'll post to tell you how they work.
Also, I weigh 240 lbs. so I'll also report on how sturdy the mod kit is.
I can also take pics if CF website still doesn't show the clear mod kit. |
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theheter0c1ite
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| 438. Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 10:00 pm Post subject: Brackets.. |
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| I like the second brackets better.. |
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paintballer05
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| 439. Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 7:57 am Post subject: |
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Is there a way i can use a CF pad on my xbox? also with the brackets you wont be able to hit the other buttons just the arrows how will that work??
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