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180. PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2005 7:15 pm    Post subject: Re: [color=red]I use the bar once in a great while[/color] Reply with quote

legendkiller52 wrote:
Yeah I think so to but I use the bar too but to keep my balance after couple of songs more like 12 songs erm.gif Well besides that I don't use the bar but the thing is I'am also a light mode player but I'am very good at it. Okay Okay I'm working on making my way up to standard but I don't think it will happen any time soon riiight.gif well changing subject the most pathetic thing I saw was someone using the bar on beginner mode playing 511 disgust.gif god that was horrible disturb.gif.

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181. PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2005 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If someone does better on 511 Beginner with the bar then they should go ahead.
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182. PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 12:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Trick bar use... Reply with quote

whisperinmotion wrote:
at the arcade have u ever seen people using the bar for all the songs but that their on light? i mean today i went to the arcade and there was this girl she was doin Speed over beethoven on light but she held onto the bar for the whole time and i told me sis that she was holding onto the bar and that you cood see she was tiring herself out so much...she even failed it whats up with that? not to b mean about it or nething. i just always see itt atleast once...

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Once i saw a girl in beginner!! holding on to the bar...and then stepping really hard on the arrows... sarc.gif
i `m in heavy and i use it not all the time...
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183. PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2005 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NO USING THE BAR UNLESS THE SONG IS ON HEAVY AND A 9-FOOTER AND ABOVE
i strongly agree with this idea im going to put a sign at my arcade's
exreme
But u should nvr make fun of newb who molest the bar...

you should threaten them and tell them if they ever touch the bar agian you will punch them in the face 10 time
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184. PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2005 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DDR FR34k 87 wrote:
NO USING THE BAR UNLESS THE SONG IS ON HEAVY AND A 9-FOOTER AND ABOVE
i strongly agree with this idea im going to put a sign at my arcade's
exreme
But u should nvr make fun of newb who molest the bar...

you should threaten them and tell them if they ever touch the bar agian you will punch them in the face 10 time



I've figured out over time that there's really no point in arguing against using the bar, if someone is comfortable using the bar, let them, if they aren't then they don't. I can understand threatening them if they stomp on the pads, or damage the DDR machine in any way, but holding the bar...really who cares?
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185. PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2005 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I've figured out over time that there's really no point in arguing against using the bar, if someone is comfortable using the bar, let them, if they aren't then they don't. I can understand threatening them if they stomp on the pads, or damage the DDR machine in any way, but holding the bar...really who cares?


Could not have said it any better myself. I totaly agree with this.
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186. PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2005 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't care if people use the bar, I rarely do, but that is because I have no technique for doing so.

With that in mind, for those of you who do use the bar (For 10 footers. Or maybe even 11+ for ITG) how do you do it without feeling awkward?

Is there a method for using it? A better place to hold your hands? Do you hold yourself up with the bar, or do you just use it for balance?

It really does perplex me, because everytime I try to use the bar I fail.
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187. PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All these arguments over the use of the bar are overrated. its like calling a waltz not a dance because all you ever do is the tango. its a style of dancing that may seem cheap, but its not affecting you in any way, unless your a betazoid and can feel the emotions of people around you.
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188. PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw a hot girl literally raping the bar biggrin.gif
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189. PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The machine's user manual says that the bar shouldn't be held onto. That's the official take.

I say, if you payed for your set, and you're not breaking the machine - do whatever the hell you want.
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190. PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I personally am for the most part indifferent to people using the bar. I think if they're going to do it, they should learn to do it one-handed and should first learn to keep a center of balance without it, but that's just personal opinion. When I see someone relying completely on the bar, I explain to them that if they don't work on a center of balance before they reach heavy and strictly stick with the bar, it's going to end up coming back to haunt them. If they want to listen, they listen. If they don't, they don't.

Me personally, I never use the bar under normal circumstances. Not because I think it's wrong. Strangely, I actually forget that it's even there. I'm so focused on just moving from one note to the next and enjoying the song that I don't have time to be bothered with thinking about the bar behind me.

There is one song I "use" the bar for, and it's Orion .78 Ameuro Mix on Heavy mode. I don't need the bar at all. I can get an A without it. Rather, I've seen too many people throw their legs over the bar during the 16 down notes in the middle of the song and I've gotten tired of watching them do it, so when those 16 down notes come up, I make humping motions against the bar just to show them what I think of their lack of originality when they "freestyle" (and by "freestyle", I mean they don't do ANYTHING else in the song before or after that point other than hitting the notes as per usual play).

Ultimately, to each their own.
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191. PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use the bar, but only have one hand on it. It helps me to do the jumps and not to fall off. It really helps on high footers when your feet are moving a lot.
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192. PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Emorgasm wrote:
The machine's user manual says that the bar shouldn't be held onto. That's the official take.


Well, they probably say that so that they don't get sued just in case it does break for whatever reason. Probably for the same reason McDonald's has to say "Caution: Coffee is Hot."
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193. PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Synaesthesia wrote:
Emorgasm wrote:
The machine's user manual says that the bar shouldn't be held onto. That's the official take.


Well, they probably say that so that they don't get sued just in case it does break for whatever reason. Probably for the same reason McDonald's has to say "Caution: Coffee is Hot."


True, on Instant Lunch cups of soup it says: "Caution: Hot. Be careful especially when serving children." Don't ask me why that's relevant.
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194. PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I once saw a really tall guy sit on the bar and play biggrin.gif
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195. PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i always use the bar, no matter which song i do. my goal for regular play is to PA songs, and i PA better with bar.

the only exception is extra stage. i prefer not to bar ES, because i mainly do ES for fun (casual play). i even passed max 300 ES no bar once, and i'm trying to complete paranoia survivor on it no bar as well.

i don't wanna start playing without bar on regular play, because i don't feel like to. my PA has gotten a lot better, and i don't wanna turn around and go to playing no bar. besides, my arms are also getting a good workout as well. E10.gif
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196. PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have no real issue with the bar. Granted I'm no expert but if people want to use it, doesn't bother me.

I have a question, is it possible to AAA w/o the bar? I've seen lots of vids where people AA w/o the bar but never an AAA w/o. I've seen the Yasu vids and he seems to AAA with that bar consistently but as soon as he stops using the bar, the closest he gets is AA.
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197. PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I could care less if a newb does it 'cuz it's kinda humerous to watch. I only hate it when pros hang onto the bar. Listen, you could be the godliest DDR player on the planet, but if you have to hang onto the bar the entire song, even if it's MAX 300 on Heavy, I have no respect for you. It's the equivalent of the jackasses who use hacks on Counter-Strike and honestly believe they're "1337".
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198. PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had to use it last time my friend and I went to the arcade. We've only done easy heavy mode songs at the arcade, but can AA standard songs. I decided to try out Holic (on heavy). It had been about 3 hours of DDRing for the both of us, so I ended up using the bar. I got an A on it, though. =D The bar really helped me, because I can step a bit harder without losing my balance. A couple of the pads at my arcade aren't overly sensitive, because of idiots stomping on them. =|
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199. PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Max-Mex wrote:
I have a question, is it possible to AAA w/o the bar? I've seen lots of vids where people AA w/o the bar but never an AAA w/o. I've seen the Yasu vids and he seems to AAA with that bar consistently but as soon as he stops using the bar, the closest he gets is AA.


I've AAA'd many songs without holding the bar. In fact, I haven't actually AAA'd anything holding the bar, but I suppose it'll happen eventually if I try really hard. I've brought a few songs down to consistent SDG holding the bar, but I haven't AAA'd anything that way yet. It's an awkward play style for me so I often flub on the up arrow.

That all said, I'm not the best so there are a lot of people who have done the same and more. It's very possible.
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