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DDR_mastor1
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200.  Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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Yes i have, i have a smartjoy PS2 -> USB adapter that i use with my afterburner and it works flawlessly. i also have a PS2 -> XBOX adapter that i use for xbox. Both work fine. The problem is with the USB and XBOX adapters. The ps2 one works fine.
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neotwig
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| 201. Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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| DDR_mastor1 wrote: | | Yes i have, i have a smartjoy PS2 -> USB adapter that i use with my afterburner and it works flawlessly. i also have a PS2 -> XBOX adapter that i use for xbox. Both work fine. The problem is with the USB and XBOX adapters. The ps2 one works fine. |
There are several Smartjoy adapters available. Which one do you have? Is there any lag due to the conversion? Also, do you have to enter a code to put the pad in dance mode? Some adapters require you to hit select, start, and up at the same time to put the pad in dance mode. Otherwise you can't push up and down at the same time, or left and right at the same time.
I'm thinking of getting two of these types of adapters until RedOctane figures out what's going on. I can still use them for other controllers once RO gets their control box issue fixed. (If they get it fixed...)
I do like the pads and have had no problems other than the USB connection flaking out. So far not even a hiccup on the PS1.
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tepp
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| 202. Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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| stewlab wrote: | | for all the people who have control box issues such as myself, what is the situation? have you been able to contact RO? my control box is completely shot. help please |
I spent all day Monday calling their 1-888 number, and emailing, and waiting for a live chat response.
I finally got this answer through email:
"Thank you for the email. We are looking to send you a
replacement. In order to send you a replacement we would need to hold stock of working control boxes. Unfortunately we do not have stock of control boxes for the Afterburner pad. We are working as quickly as we can to obtain control boxes for issues like this. ... Please give us
some time to obtain a working control box for you. Feel free to contact us
again in 1-2 weeks if you do not hear from us."
So, 1-2 weeks till a fix... Well, at least I finally got an answer from them. I will lay off the hounds until then.
Unfortunatley it took all monday just to get than answer. I wish they'd just have prompt customer service, their "online chat" was offline or "back soon" all day. Phone kept dropping me into their voicemail. They never called me back.
They did suggest a hack for my PS2 issues: load up DDR Max! with a ps2 controller in slot 1. Then swap in cbox once the game is loaded. I tried that and it worked (phew). So I can now use it on my ps2. Phew.
I'm just hosed for XBOX, which makes me very sad, I love Ultramix2.
But I got to play on Ultramix3 at E3 so that makes up for it... sorta.
I do like this pad, for all my whining and crying. I just want it to WORK!!! I do like feeling the arrows and it does feel solid.
By the way, has anyone figured out how to install it for doubles? supposedy it is supposed to come doubles-ready with no kit needed but I can't see how one is supposed to link the two together.
Not that I'm buying another one right now, but I was wondering. Cause if they did fix my cbox and it did work on my XBOX I would be a very happy customer. I'm just upset cause I can't play Ultramix 2, and that's my favourite mix.
If their customer support was only reachable, they could've told me to wait a week ago, and I would've been content to wait.... but instead I had to dedicate two whole days to hunting them down and trying to pin them to admit my cbox is busted. |
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tepp
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| 203. Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Alayna wrote: | | Grr... Xbox- Controller not inserted error... |
Makes baby Tepp cry... it really does.
I nearly A'd R10k. Got 2 boos due to that. I got a B instead.
*cry*. |
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tepp
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| 204. Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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| SGX is huge bololo wrote: | Hello,
Thank you for the email. The issue maybe with your PC. Try updating all your windows updates. Also please make sure you have the latest drivers for USB 2.0.
Thank you,
Service RedOctane
uh....thanks. =/ |
Bullcrap. You can't update the XBOX, and the same problem happens on the XBOX.....
At least I'm not the only one suffering anymore. |
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tepp
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| 205. Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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| DDR_mastor1 wrote: | | Yes i have, i have a smartjoy PS2 -> USB adapter that i use with my afterburner and it works flawlessly. i also have a PS2 -> XBOX adapter that i use for xbox. Both work fine. The problem is with the USB and XBOX adapters. The ps2 one works fine. |
What's the brand of your PS2->XBOX converter?
Any lag?
Also, does it recognize it as a pad for XBOX Live! ?
Does it disable the corners during dancing? |
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The Game II
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| 206. Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Jaytron wrote: | | impulse617 wrote: | | sounds like the only thing CF has on this thing is durability. I hope RO will exchange the original for the afterburner |
um.. have you been reading the thread? alot of people seem to be having connection problems, and the pad dieing quickly. Also.. personally i think durability is a big thing |
I have not experienced any problems yet, although I do not own a DDR game for the Xbox. The CF is better in terms of durability and sensitivity. However, the Afterburner is the real deal if you want an arcade feel. With a CF, I didn't feel like I was playing at an arcade. It feels that way with the afterburner.
The great thing about the afterburner is that it has give, you're able to bounce back after you step on an arrow; only the ignition does this to an extent, but it's still far off compared to the afterburner. I played MaxX a couple times today, and didn't tire out as easily as I did with other pads.
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riapsed
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| 207. Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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| I used the PS2 plug on the afterburner with a BNS PS2->USB adapter, and it was fine. A little lag, but that's because of the BNS adapter. Just set the GlobalOffsetSeconds variable in the stepmania.ini file to like -0.020000. |
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Shadow_Eternal
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The Game II
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| 209. Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Shadow_Eternal wrote: | | All right.. for those that have played on both a Cobalt Flux and a Red Octane Afterburner (minus the USB and X-Box issues), which do you think is the better value for your dollar? |
| About 90 minutes ago, I wrote: | The CF is better in terms of durability and sensitivity. However, the Afterburner is the real deal if you want an arcade feel. With a CF, I didn't feel like I was playing at an arcade. It feels that way with the afterburner.
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Afterburner. 
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stewlab
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| 210. Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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whenever i plug in my control box to my USB it now says it has exceeded its power for the port and a surge occured. i dont know what that means, did this happen to anyone else?
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riapsed
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| 211. Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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On the Afterburner, when you step on an arrow, the surface of the entire pad seems to give a little. The metal around the up arrow sags a little even when you're hitting the down arrow. That can't be good for the circutry inside it... The Cobalt Flux however, is built like a rock. You get what you pay for.
If you want an arcade feel, go to an arcade. Those pads are $2000 for a reason. |
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Thomas Hobbes
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| 212. Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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If I recall correctly, if you use any adapater Xbox Live will detect it as a controller automatically.
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neotwig
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| 213. Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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| tepp wrote: | | By the way, has anyone figured out how to install it for doubles? supposedy it is supposed to come doubles-ready with no kit needed but I can't see how one is supposed to link the two together. |
I wondered about this too, but upon further examination there is a bracket on one of the corners of each pad that is held in with one screw. Since each pad comes with one, you use one at the top corner and one at the bottom corner to connect the pads.
Also... anyone know if any DIFFERENT control boxes (NOT the ones made for the Afterburner) will work on these pads for USB or XBox purposes? The connector looks pretty standard, so I thought maybe some other control box would work better. These are my only pads though, so I have nothing to test with or compare to.
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tepp
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| 214. Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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| neotwig wrote: | | tepp wrote: | | By the way, has anyone figured out how to install it for doubles? supposedy it is supposed to come doubles-ready with no kit needed but I can't see how one is supposed to link the two together. |
I wondered about this too, but upon further examination there is a bracket on one of the corners of each pad that is held in with one screw. Since each pad comes with one, you use one at the top corner and one at the bottom corner to connect the pads.
Also... anyone know if any DIFFERENT control boxes (NOT the ones made for the Afterburner) will work on these pads for USB or XBox purposes? The connector looks pretty standard, so I thought maybe some other control box would work better. These are my only pads though, so I have nothing to test with or compare to. |
Thanks, I'll look for the braket tonight.
I can vouch that the old RedOctane metal cbox does NOT work with the Afterburner. I tried to swipe a friend's. His uses a VGA cable. Ours uses a mice serial cable/connector. So they won't mate with our pads.
In theory, one could try to build a home-built cbox using an old pad, similar to Sinclair's for the cobalt flux, but honestly, RedOctane should not be selling defective products and expecting the users to deal with it.
They should fix it. Not us.
What's the adapter being used for the xbox? I don't have stepmania on the PC, but the XBOX disconnects are driving me insane. I couldn't A any song last night due to multiple disconnects leading to stupid Boos when I was so close to AA'ing songs.
Today I bought a really long serial mouse cable. Going to try and see if putting the cbox on a sturdy surface far away from the pad helps any with the disconnects. Maybe it doesn't like being shaken? |
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ritalin24
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| 215. Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 11:04 am Post subject: |
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Well got mine this morning, Xbox seems to work fine so far, but the PC has the infamous disconnects constantly, GO RED OCTANE! WHOO! frick.
Well EDIT - Well after about another hour of play, the disconnects seemed to have stopped, could be random, who knows. But now sometimes on stepmania, the timing seems to slow down , and even though I know for a fact I am right with it, it will give me decents and the arrorws up top seem to flutter some like its not connected, but then it will come back up to speed and everything will be fine. Anyone else had this issue?
EDIT again, nevermind. disconnects are back in full force 
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Hidyman
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| 216. Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 12:22 pm Post subject: Same USB problem |
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I got mine today, and I get the issue with the USB where it stops working.
This is crap.
Emailing RO NOW!
P.S. The pad seems very well built and I didn't notice any of the "Flexing" someone else was talking about. Sensitivity is right on, just need a control box that works. |
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tepp
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| 217. Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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I tried buying a serial extension cable to see if moving the cbox away from the pad would help with my disconnects.
Well, I think it reduced them... I'm down to about 3 an hour... but they are still there.
Or maybe it's just a fluke.
My husband stood on my afterburner yesterday. freaked me out. He weighs 205 lbs, was wearing hiking shoes... the whole thing sort of FLEXED downwards...never seen it do that before. It doesn't do that for me, but I'm lighter than him by several stone (a lady never reveals her weight).
the afterburner was on a rug on top of the carpet, not sure if that matters.
Pretty creepy.
On the bright side, nothing cracked when he tried to play on it... I was about ready to freak out, so he didn't get much time on it. the sight of the whole thing bending downwards in the middle really scared me. |
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Spike357
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| 218. Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 7:19 am Post subject: |
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| Shadow_Eternal wrote: | All right.. for those that have played on both a Cobalt Flux and a Red Octane Afterburner (minus the USB and X-Box issues), which do you think is the better value for your dollar?
I'm looking to get a second pad, and I'm having some trouble deciding. I wouldn't mind going with the tried and true Cobalt Flux, but the lowered panels, and the triple connection C-Box (once they make some that actually work) are very tempting.
Mind you, we're still not sure how long the Afterburner will last as a pad. It could only last for a few months before breaking, while the CF has been known to last well over a year in some cases. Hard to say.
I would greatly appreciate any input, thank you. |
I've never played on an Afterburner, so I can't comment on that part, but Cobalt Flux recently said that they're going to come out with recessed panels very soon, and a control box with PS2/Xbox/PC report soon after. Sure, the Xbox cbox has been coming for a while, but they said soon.  |
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cmeador
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| 219. Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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| tepp wrote: | I tried buying a serial extension cable to see if moving the cbox away from the pad would help with my disconnects.
Well, I think it reduced them... I'm down to about 3 an hour... but they are still there.
Or maybe it's just a fluke.
My husband stood on my afterburner yesterday. freaked me out. He weighs 205 lbs, was wearing hiking shoes... the whole thing sort of FLEXED downwards...never seen it do that before. It doesn't do that for me, but I'm lighter than him by several stone (a lady never reveals her weight).
the afterburner was on a rug on top of the carpet, not sure if that matters.
Pretty creepy.
On the bright side, nothing cracked when he tried to play on it... I was about ready to freak out, so he didn't get much time on it. the sight of the whole thing bending downwards in the middle really scared me. |
I'd like to hear more about this, if anyone over 200 lbs has played on an afterburner! I don't want to buy a pair and then break them...  |
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