Trouble in Groove-land

Chrillicus · Basic Member Joined: 07 May 2005

Wow, you are one ignorant DDR Fanboy. music games have not died in japan...Pop'n Music is in the top 3 for arcade machines last time I checked. Drummania, IIDX, and Guitar Freaks were also in top 20. IIDX even has the new happy sky mix, so it is clearly not dead like you were implying.

have you ever played on a ITG machine? yeah, maybe its a ripoff. But the ripoff is alot better than the original in A LOT of ways, including difficulty. Maybe you can have fun playing Mobo Moga for 2.5 years but not me. I'm tired of it, and no matter how good ITG is in comparison to DDR, its at least new (with better music IMO), so I don't have to listen to that same music ever again. Imagine listening "Hey ya!" by outkast for hours a week and 2.5 years. Yeah, I'm sure you thought it was good when it first came out. still like it now? does it not make you want to go on a killing rampage? because DDR was doing that to me.

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Bolt-Edge · Trick Member Joined: 01 Sep 2004 Location: Mayfield, OH

EDIT: nevermind

Ok, we all know DDR was first, and ITG was just trying to further adavance the technology in DDR. Unfortunatly, they did things such as using DDR cabinets as theirs and Konami found out. Roxor has almost (i repeat:almost) have no chance at winning this case, but its the fact that Roxor tried to make DDR better. I think this will help aid Konami into thinking about making similar changes to their game like ITG did
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Disconnected airSpirit · Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 10:12 am Post subject:

WHEN DID NVLM JOIN DDRFREAK?!

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Also, a friend of mine talked to our local ITG-containing arcade manager (Robert), and Robert informed him that he is almost 100% sure Roxor will win, as Konami does not have a license on machines in the US.

If you want details on what Robert said, ask the friend, - Hardcore of the Fep is his current DDRF username - not me.

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DUDEsup13 · Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 10:58 am Post subject:

[quote="Chrillicus"]Wow, you are one ignorant DDR Fanboy. music games have not died in japan...Pop'n Music is in the top 3 for arcade machines last time I checked. Drummania, IIDX, and Guitar Freaks were also in top 20. IIDX even has the new happy sky mix, so it is clearly not dead like you were implying.

have you ever played on a ITG machine? yeah, maybe its a ripoff. But the ripoff is alot better than the original in A LOT of ways, including difficulty. Maybe you can have fun playing Mobo Moga for 2.5 years but not me. I'm tired of it, and no matter how good ITG is in comparison to DDR, its at least new (with better music IMO), so I don't have to listen to that same music ever again. Imagine listening "Hey ya!" by outkast for hours a week and 2.5 years. Yeah, I'm sure you thought it was good when it first came out. still like it now? does it not make you want to go on a killing rampage? because DDR was doing that to me.[/quote]

Ok. You made a good point. I just worded that wrong. When I said "music games"- I mean DDR. DDR, in the arcade anyway, dosent look like its going anywhere in a fast pace in Japan. Music games are great. But, of course, its most likely just going to be a phase. So why not just let ITG be free. All these music games (in the US at least) , are just going to create one big phase. My guess is most people are going to plain old grow out of it anyway. Or not play it nearly as much. And yes, you are right, I am an ignorant DDR fanboy. I dont keep up with DDR news that much. I just play. And no, i dont think the songs are getting old. But thats just me. (talks to himself) -I shouldnt do these forums anymore...

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DUDEsup13 · Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 11:15 am Post subject:

Thanks! You are right. But, Chllicus is also right. I dont keep up with the DDR, ITG, PIU, IIDX, popn, ect., news. I honestly dont care. I just like to play DDR, and I want to keep it that way. DDR is a major portion of my life. I dont want people talking trash about it. Yeah this is a forum about ITG vs. DDR. But I dont think there should be any trash talk in here. I probably sound like a complete idiot right now, but Mikieson is right. People in here should be, AND HAVE BEEN, talking about what they think about this. And I find absolutely NOTHING wrong with that.
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Loogaroo · Trick Member Joined: 06 Feb 2002 Location: Glendale, CA

Does anyone think that maybe RoXoR knew that Konami was going to complain about ITG and figured it was better to ask for forgiveness than for permission?
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Jeffreyw · Trick Member Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Location: Spokane, WA

RoXor knew konami would probably try to do something way before itg ever started.
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Mr. A · Trick Member Joined: 20 Oct 2003 Location: INTERNET

So why let Roxor get away with ITG1 in the first place? This is gonna sound like an awful analogy, but maybe it's like an Iraqi insurgent waiting for a tanker filled with gas to drive by before blowing up a bomb instead of blowing apart an empty one?

Crono · Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 11:47 am Post subject:

Funny, I didn't think that Konami had a liscence for any DDR machines in North America except for DDRUSA? I'm just trying to understand how they can sue for patent infringment on something that's not even liscenced to be used over here to start with...

But seriously, Konami doesn't make a new arcade release for over 2 years, and just soaks up the revenues over a few new home releases, what do they expect? Seriously?

One more comment to go = Konami
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DJTyrant · Maniac Member Joined: 25 Jan 2002 Location: Ventura, CA

For crying out loud, read the patent before you start thinking it's invalid here.
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Takeru51 · Trick Member Joined: 21 Apr 2005 Location: Washington

ok, you can call me whatever you want for saying this, but i mean... seriously... i think ITG is stupid, and i really hope konami doesnt do anything with its new releases like the three arrows or arrows during hold arrows crap, i think thats as stupid as the stepmania songs that you could never do with your feet. saying that konami doesnt have a case because they dont have liscences on the us machines is as stupid as ITG, they arent suing over liscencing issues, theyre suing over copyright infringement. its the set up of the DDR machine that roxor completely copied, and thats the issue. although, they might also be able to sue on grounds of unfair competition, i dunno what itd be called, but what roxor did is somewhat comparable to pasting over someone else's billboard on a highway with your own advertisement

DJTyrant · Maniac Member Joined: 25 Jan 2002 Location: Ventura, CA

Why don't you read the lawsuit before you start typing again Takeru51, you're as bad as the ITG fanboys.
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Jeffreyw · Trick Member Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Location: Spokane, WA

let me guess Takeru51, you probably suck at ddr don't you. Please leave personal opinions out of this thread. and as DJTyrant said here, read everything before you speak.
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Chi_Ryu · Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 5:54 pm Post subject:

Most posts in this thread make me want to cry. I've just read the whole thing from start to p29, and want the last 40 minutes of my life back.

Anyway, back around page 15, this was asked:

Disconnected airSpirit · Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 6:03 pm Post subject:

Can we, like, ban anyone who registered in 2005 from even looking at this? This is getting retarded.