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J. S. Mill
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0.  Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 12:14 am Post subject: How Offsync is VerTex? |
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Simple question, two parts:
1) Is VerTex offsync? (Pretty sure most people will say yes)
2) How bad is it offsync? On a scale of 1-10, with 3 or 4 being HyperEurobeat and 10 being D2R.
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Karl Popper
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| 1. Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 12:15 am Post subject: |
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1) Yes.
2) 2^49582095829045824098521098653 |
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| 2. Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 12:16 am Post subject: |
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Yes
Later than a 90 year old man's erection.
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toady007
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| 3. Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 8:46 am Post subject: |
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If the simfile on fantom's site is accurate, then play the song on .3x song rate and play auditorily. You will decent attack the song. I can't personally say that the actual song is off because I really can't play 1x worth shit anyway, but I suspect the simfile is accurate. In that case it would be far worse than D2R.
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Thomas Hobbes
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| 4. Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 9:51 am Post subject: |
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VerTex seems offbeat to me, so yes.
I rate it a 9. It's close to some D2R offbeat action. =/
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Nicx
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| 5. Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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| its quite late ill say a 7 |
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TL
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| 6. Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 8:27 am Post subject: |
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| in my opinion i'd give it a 6 its off sync but it isnt as bad as d2r |
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IHYD.DukAmok
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| 7. Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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| toady007 wrote: | | If the simfile on fantom's site is accurate, then play the song on .3x song rate and play auditorily. You will decent attack the song. I can't personally say that the actual song is off because I really can't play 1x worth shit anyway, but I suspect the simfile is accurate. In that case it would be far worse than D2R. |
if you play any song on .3x music youll practically never MA it. plus the simfiles are practically never accurate.
id say that to begin with its about .03 seconds off, then in the slowdown with the triplets, it gets to about .04 seconds off. after that though, it gets back to about maybe .01 late, or even right on, its hard to tell. but it definitely changes syncing
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runwithscizzors9
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| 8. Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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i guess im not that picky, seems fine to me, although now i have an urge to play it, ill try the .3 rate thing
EDIT: wow, thats pretty off
Last edited by runwithscizzors9 on Sun May 08, 2005 9:22 pm, edited 1 time in total |
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Thomas Hobbes
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| 9. Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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I played it today on C400 and it does still seem offsync/offbeat to me. I rate it a 5 now. It's slightly worse then Hyper Eurobeat but it was NOT as bad as D2R.
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| 10. Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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Personally, I never saw D2R as offbeat. Still don't.
But VerTex is off, and it's about a 7. |
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Karl Popper
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| 11. Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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Hahaha, that's really not saying anything good about VerTex then  |
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Houou Don't You Want Me
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| 12. Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 1:14 am Post subject: |
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| Disconnected airSpirit wrote: | Personally, I never saw D2R as offbeat. Still don't.
But VerTex is off, and it's about a 7. |
So according to that VerTex is like a 14 |
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red shoe paul
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| 13. Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 7:22 am Post subject: Re: How Offsync is VerTex? |
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| SPF5.Kiba wrote: | | 10 being D2R. |
i lol'd at that
definately not too bad. i'd say around a 3 or 2.
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IHYD.Blake
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| 15. Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, that was such a stupid bump that I actually IMed Cory why he didnt ask me about the syncing of VerTex.
Dont do it again.
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Tyrgannus
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| 16. Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:54 pm Post subject: Re: How Offsync is VerTex? |
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| John Locke wrote: | Simple question, two parts:
1) Is VerTex offsync? (Pretty sure most people will say yes)
2) How bad is it offsync? On a scale of 1-10, with 3 or 4 being HyperEurobeat and 10 being D2R. |
Unfortunately, the majority of my ITG play is home version, so my opinion is skewed because the CS is actually synced slightly differently for many of the songs, for example Hand of Time and Walking on Fire are borderline unplayable on CS, whereas there only just off on arcade (Or pretty much right on for R16).
Whatever, that being said, I find VerTex to definitely be off, BUT part of the offsync is do the song's poor structure as opposed to it's offset. Sure, it's offset is well.....off (late), but it has slowdown's that aren't exactly half, one measure that slows down like 11 BPM and then right after that "half times's" into a BPM that really has nothing to do with the song, just for it later speed back up to a BPM that has nothing to do with the part you came out of (This is near the end if you haven't noticed.)
Yeah, bunch of stupid stuff like that.
On a scale of 1-10 on how offsync it is, D2R being a 10, I would have to say it is only around a 4, but again, I may be jaded due to the even more abyssmal syncing of Happiness comes mix, Walking on Fire, and Hand of Time CS.....oh, and Bouff is right on up there as well.
EDIT: Oh crap, didn't read the date. DON'T POST ANY MORE HERE AND REPEAT MY MISTAKE!!
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tekkie
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| 17. Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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1) Yes
2) Wouldn't go past a 6-7
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Spork
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| 18. Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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It's perfectly onbeat on ITG2.
However, It seemed a LITTLE bit, maybe a 2 on ITG1AC
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| 19. Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 8:23 am Post subject: |
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| frank_the_Tank wrote: | i would have to say about Pi^2
*witch equals about 9.80645  |
Wow, you can use a calculator, congratulations.
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