Trouble in Groove-land

ThadTheEvil · Trick Member Joined: 25 Mar 2002

would you want someone having sex with your gf?

no, that's yours. even if you havn't done anything with it in 2 years.
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Char · Trick Member Joined: 30 Apr 2004

Catastrophe · Trick Member Joined: 04 Mar 2002 Location: Worcester, MA

sherl0k · Maniac Member Joined: 27 Jan 2002 Location: the internet

ATTENTION ARCHOWL GET OFF MY INTERNET

banned!

And also Konami does look like it has the upper hand here, but that is PURE speculation.
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[quote:ed1f6848c5=\\\"jaeness\\\"]get your change from obama, he apparently has tons of it.[/quote]

469.JR07 Si · Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 9:10 pm Post subject:

DDR Cabinets aren't supposed to be in the US anyways, and since the arcade purchased the cabinets, they can do with them what they please. i don't see how Konami of Japan can file suit against the machines being changed in the US. its much like putting Tekken in a Capcom vs SNK 2 cabinet. the copyright over the gameplay style is very questionable, but its not like remakes haven't been made in general. i believe in order to settle this, if RoXor puts up an offer to pay some royalties regarding the original idea of a dance game, it might put Konami at ease, but i do not believe they have justification for attacking the Roxor kit to be put in the outdated Konami cabinet. hopefully it's settled and we can have our ITG...unless Konami puts out a new DDR that is on a competitive level. without competition Konami was making their games at their own pace, with competition it should drive them to make better games for the players out there, but they won't...it's sad really. also for all you ITG haters out there...i'm going to be an elitist and say "STOP SUCKING AT THE GAME AND LEARN TO PLAY HARDER SONGS" kbye...

LET ME SHOW YOU THEM · Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 9:10 pm Post subject:

My quote (on page 4) in no way says that i'm against them exercising their legal rights...just fyi. I'm just wishing that instead of crucifying roxor, they'd get up and make DDREXTREME2 or DDRHAPPYSKYREDTRIPTHEDEEP.
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theficionado wrote:

Seriously, they should make some sort of spray for you.

Yeehaw McKickass · Contributor Joined: 06 Oct 2002 Location: Chicago Area

I just read the documents.

I'm not a lawyer, by any stretch of the imagination, but look at articles 2 and 3. These sections come off like Konami is trying to have their cake and eat it too.

Article two basically moans that RoXoR put out stickers to cover the Konami logos, then Article three moans about operators creating "confusion," and "false advertising," over who made the game when machine owners DON'T put all the stickers on.

I'd say Konami would win everything patent related, but as for the trademark/copyright side, there's a precedent against them. I seriously doubt that this will go to court though.

And if anyone's wondering why the counts seem to double up, it's because the suit is pulling double duty in suing Federally and within Texas

So, just to chime in on what I think will probably happen, now that I've read more information on this whole deal...

On the RoXoR side:
They'll probably settle with the condition that they cease production of the BoXoR kit and not make any more upgrades. They'll also end up paying some money out to Konami. Boo-Freaking-Hoo.

On the Konami side:
This was a calculated move to prevent one channel of a competitor through protecting something they panteted.
The other aspect of it from the Konami side... Well, PAY ATTENTION TO E3.

P.S. EnglishBastardizingTerror or whatever you're going by anymore; Please use proper capatalization and punctuation in your posts.
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Alex-jon · Basic Member Joined: 07 Oct 2002 Location: San Antonio, TX

Even if Roxor stops ITG1, and goes ahead with ITG2 in their own cases, the judge could say, "Well, how many of the modded DDR cabinets have ITG? OK, so that's $50bajillion dollars per cabinet!" and such.

Wait-- was Roxor accepting money for their kits?
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sfetaz · Vivid Member Joined: 02 May 2002

One other thing, people forget in America you can basically sue anyone for anything at anytime. Millions of lawsuits are filled every year, but over 95% are either thrown out of court or settled even before reaching court. Like right now I could sue Char for Slander and Sexual Harassment, and he would have to answer the suit. The moment it reached court I would probably be heavily fined for wasting the courts time, but the point it still made that suing is common and not difficult regardless of the level.

BTW Char, LOVE LOVE LOVE the Avatar, ALL MUST WATCH 24!

Wolfman Jake · Trick Member Joined: 13 Sep 2002

LET ME SHOW YOU THEM · Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 9:17 pm Post subject:

Alex-jon · Basic Member Joined: 07 Oct 2002 Location: San Antonio, TX

Hm. Page 10: Ego-stroking and mental masturbation.
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Alex-jon · Basic Member Joined: 07 Oct 2002 Location: San Antonio, TX

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sherl0k · Maniac Member Joined: 27 Jan 2002 Location: the internet

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I'm doing this at the request of a friend. Please don't shoot the messenger, the opinions in this post do not reflect my own. =\

Reenee · Trick Member Joined: 21 Nov 2003

DRGNFIRE · Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 9:27 pm Post subject:

This is all confusing....

But heres my OPINION:

Why would konami want to destroy RoXoR? They can easily just ask for royalties. Then, they would make money, and CONTINUTE to make money for the life of ITG. Free money for no labor seems like a pretty sweet deal to me.

=Dragon, Going to Play ITG2 tomorrow, unafraid of being suied by Konami, Fire

Loogaroo · Trick Member Joined: 06 Feb 2002 Location: Glendale, CA