Trouble in Groove-land

ark_keeper · Trick Member Joined: 31 Aug 2002 Location: Louisville, KY

Will this apply to the tons of bootleg machines out there? Or were those official DDR machines at one point anyway?
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The legend of ZAKU 0079 · Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 1:58 pm Post subject:

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Devil Jin · Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 2:05 pm Post subject: Re: Lawsuit

CNLohr · Trick Member Joined: 02 Feb 2004

At any rate guys, until the injunction is made public record, and we know what the suit is actually over, I am not going to post anything beyond this.

I think it's absurd for us to be arguing over what the suit is about, let alone whether or not it has any grounds.

I mostly believe it is over what Roxor did (by reverse engineering previous cabinets). Instead of patent: 20010004861.

I strongly encourage anyone to read patent 20010004861 ( from http://appft1.uspto.gov/netahtml/PTO/search-bool.html ) before trying to speak authoritatively on it.

as a teaser, here is an image from the patent:

EvilDave219 · Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 2:12 pm Post subject:

Well, first off this proves that Konami is full of a bunch of pussies who can't stand the fact they their monopolization of the dancing market in the US is basically over.

Second off, I don't think that this will affect the new ITG2 cabinets that are being produced. These cabinets are being produced by Andamiro, and if anyone can remember what happened with the Konami vs Andamiro lawsuit, they settled, and Konami let Andamiro build machines as long as they pay a royalty fee to Konami. So I don't see how the ITG2 machines would be different, Andamiro should be able to build them and only have to pay a royalty fee to Konami.

As far as the BoXoRs in other DDR cabinets, this shows how god damn stupid Konami is. I hope they realize almost every machine in the US (like...95% of them atleast) are bootlegs. Not only that, but those machines that ARE legal are ILLEGAL to put in the US. So technically, those cabinets that the bootlegs are in Konami has no control over. I guess it would be illegal to upgrade one of their POS DDR EX CS machines that were going to be used in the Namco national competition, or to upgrade a USA mix, but since I doubt any of that has happened, they can't do poopy.

Oh, and if crap like Madcatz Dance Groove and Britney Spears Dancing Beat can be released without copyright enfringement, ITG can too for the PS2. This won't affect the PS2 version at all.

Konami, you can kiss my buttocks and suck my balls.
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sherl0k · Maniac Member Joined: 27 Jan 2002 Location: the internet

:O they patented that GOD DAMN BAR (insert flames here)

Hey arch0wl i thought you retired from the internet or something, maybe it's better you stay that way? Or at least keep opinions out of the matter.

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ark_keeper · Trick Member Joined: 31 Aug 2002 Location: Louisville, KY

I think ITG may have even known about this, since their new cabinet changes the lights, bars, arrow designs, selection buttons, speaker arrangement, and the screen(?).
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Houou Don't You Want Me · Trick Member Joined: 18 Dec 2004

This whole thing... wow. Thats really stupid. Really stupid. And to CNLohr, won't Dancetrax have problems with this aswell? You didn't seem to address that at all.

LilRabbitToy · Trick Member Joined: 11 Jun 2004 Location: Rosemead

hip hop hooray!

NO MORE Inside the Groovy (I know In The Groove)...that means that I wont have to feel bad for ITG to come out cus i dont have any money...but its kinda funny how Konami filed a lawsuit when ITG was about to release... hahah
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Disconnected airSpirit · Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 2:21 pm Post subject:

No machine is illegal. Well, some are, but in general machines are bought in japan and then sold here, which is perfectly legal.

yyr · Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 2:21 pm Post subject:

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jonathanjman · Basic Member Joined: 22 Mar 2005

okay.... every one is probably going to hate me for this but...

why are you all complaining about konami. Yes they are going to probably put a stop to the game that every one loves. but think about it, you would not love in the groove if it wasnt for dance dance revolution in the first place. The whole point of in the groove is to see if they could make as much money as ddr did.
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Mr_Blasty · Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 2:23 pm Post subject:

great, just what I needed, more crap.
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Disconnected airSpirit · Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 2:24 pm Post subject:

dieKatze88 · Trick Member Joined: 10 Aug 2003

Personaly, i think this is a good thing. NOT because i hate ITG, but because Konami needs to stand up and say "No, you need to follow our rules" a bit more often. Seriously, maybe this will scare the people at Namco who think their whole DDR Extreme USA is:
a. Cute
b. Funny
c. Good
d. Tollerable
Out of making those godforsakin pieces of dog sh*t. Konami needs to defend their stuff. and you know what. GOOD FOR THEM FOR DOING IT.
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Disconnected airSpirit · Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 2:26 pm Post subject: