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NegFactor Trick Member
Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Location: Merritt Island, FL |
420. Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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grayfox126 wrote: | i've been reading the post and some of you guys on here have been talkin about how you hate it when people shadow. I don't understand your reasoning behind it. If the other pad isn't being used then why not let someone practice on it? |
Me personally, it depends on the song. If I'm confident of my own abilities on the song, I really don't care if someone shadows me in most cases. But when I'm attempting songs I haven't passed yet, I often listen to my steps as much as I read the notes on the screen just to be certain I'm keeping proper time and not moving too fast or slow. If you get someone on the pad next to you who is shadowing and gets lost on parts or simply elects to mess around and just stomp the best they can on gauntlet-runs, it kinda kills your ability to really listen well to the steps you're taking.
Obviously, if someone pays for a game and is doing the same thing on said song, not much you can complain about. It's their money and it's your fault for risking a song that they can mess you up on.
Again though, if I'm already confident, I could care less. I'm all about people getting better by whatever means works for them.
And as a side note, I agree with the recent post concerning people who give you advice when you're already on the upper end of the totem pole. There's this guy who comes to the mall once a week or so to play. He's definitely good. Got a ways to go, but definitely better than most people I've seen here. Anyway, I intentionally double-step through songs as of late and he sits there after I finish songs, telling me about how I need to learn to crossover because double-stepping "looks really gay and is so much harder"...firstly, I'm not going to argue semantics concerning whether double-stepping is harder than crossing over. People play the way they play and beyond suggestions, there's nothing to really do but let people handle things their own way.
This kid insists on telling me that the reason I'm not passing songs is strictly because I'm not crossing over. He tries to offer up a demonstration and I tell him I already know what they are. According to him, I clearly don't because I'm not using them. I proceed to do several on the pad just to show him I know how. LDRDLURULDRDLURUL...just a little sequence to prove that I can face left and right when necessary...and I tell him that I *WANT* to practice double-stepping songs...I tell him I want to work on my stamina and that crossing over is not required in order to pass every song that has multiples in it. He reverts back to the "double-stepping just looks gay and it's all about style" bit. For all his style, I can't seem to help but notice that much like everyone else around here, his only two special tricks are spinning around on jumps in Afronova and the bar-hop on the 16 down notes in Orion .78 Ameuro Mix on x3.
Man, nevermind. This doesn't make me angry, this just depresses me. |
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Ghettoman-DDR Trick Member
Joined: 01 Feb 2005 Location: New York, New York |
421. Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 10:18 am Post subject: |
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greatcity1UP wrote: | grayfox126 wrote: | I don't understand your reasoning behind it. If the other pad isn't being used then why not let someone practice on it? |
Maybe because it could break the player's concentration? |
And if they are really terrible at it too. _________________
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Brick Tamland(LoveRevenG) Trick Member
Joined: 21 Apr 2005 Location: NC |
422. Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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When stupid idiots that are like 4 years older than me start jumpin on the pad, and they mess me up. One time the guy put his foot on the arrow and said i was stepping on his foot. i failed |
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Philipio Trick Member
Joined: 23 Dec 2003 Location: Texas |
423. Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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grayfox126 wrote: | i've been reading the post and some of you guys on here have been talkin about how you hate it when people shadow. I don't understand your reasoning behind it. If the other pad isn't being used then why not let someone practice on it? |
I'm going to guess that you aren't a PA'er. With someone flailing about on the pad next to me, I get at least twice as many greats as I usually do. _________________
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natethegreat88 Trick Member
Joined: 17 Apr 2005 Location: york of the new |
424. Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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welll having a gun to your head when doing maxx unlimeted is a little annoying, not to mension the smell of redneck _________________
hang'n high with 8 points! |
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RTP! Trick Member
Joined: 25 Nov 2004 Location: Grayslake, IL |
425. Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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When your at a 178 combo on A oni and the announcer yells "good good keep on dancin" and some retarded group of slutty teenagers says "no no you suck" and you stop combo. _________________
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PARANOiA -Respect- Trick Member
Joined: 07 Apr 2005 Location: The PARANOiA Universe |
426. Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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My dad came to visit, and i was doing my final song, Drop Out, when i needed to bar rape because i was tired. i felt his hand. I HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE HOLD THE BAR WHEN THEY DON'T PLAY. |
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Syncopation Trick Member
Joined: 03 Feb 2003
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427. Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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grayfox126 wrote: | i've been reading the post and some of you guys on here have been talkin about how you hate it when people shadow. I don't understand your reasoning behind it. If the other pad isn't being used then why not let someone practice on it? |
Often times, a person shadowing on the other pad has several inconsiderate issues that go along with them. I'll just list four of them:
- They usually don't ask first, which immediately makes them inconsiderate from the start.
- The don't usually don't have any reasonable accuracy with the steps, which adds distracting off-beat stage vibrations to the steps I'm trying to read, step properly, feel for accuracy as I step on the arrow panel, and check against the arrows for accuracy. (And I won't play an easier song just for their benefit, that's for sure.)
- Alternatively, if they do know the steps since they've memorized the entire song, they proceed to show off by doing slides and spins and other "freestyle" stuff that may be fine when they play, but not while I'm playing my game as that stuff is also distracting enough.
- If they are freestyling, they are also a collision nuisance. For example, I've been hit, which thankfully did not cause injury, by showoff freestyle shadowers who are not the least bit considerate nor apologetic about not swinging their arms wide.
And asking permission only gets rid of one issue, and the other three remaining issues still remain issues.
Players who want to shadow can always do that behind that stage, read the arrows off the screen and step the steps on the floor, rather than on the empty stage.
Old school DDR players learning new songs did just that a couple of years back and were much more considerate than the new crop of empty stage shadowers that players end up dealing with nowadays. Sometimes, there would be three or more players practicing the steps by shadowing on the floor, and that's still far more considerate than the one player that takes it upon themself to shadow on the empty stage panels. |
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grayfox126 Basic Member
Joined: 21 Feb 2005
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428. Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 11:15 am Post subject: |
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maybe im just too nice of a person, because i dont really think about it when people get on the pad without askin. And as far as getting off beat goes, the music at the arcade i go to is loud enough to not to hear your foot steps. but i guess i see what you mean.
The other day i was playing max 300 on heavy after i beat legend of max (only got a b though, curse the last part of that song!) , and one of the new guys (greatly improving though) tried to shadow me and about 20-30 seconds into the song (where the steps get really fast) he slips and stumbles on to me. we both fall off the pad but luckily my friend was right behind my bar and jumped in. |
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DrunknMunkySeven Trick Member
Joined: 09 Jan 2005 Location: Frankin,WI |
429. Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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- when lil kids complain everyone is skiping them and go tell an employee
- when ppl just stand/sit around the ddr machine like their waiting in line to play when their actually not and they just clog up the machine. Stand off to the side or something. (relating to when there is no coin line)
- when theres all dust on the pad from the last person causing it to be more slipperly than usual. luckily theres always a cloth kept by my local arcade's machine to solve that problem.
- when ppl dont know how to use a coin line
- goths
i dont care if someone always plays the same song, its their time, let them play what they want, as long as their havin their fun. _________________
"Fear not the weapon, but the man who wields it." |
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Starzaka Trick Member
Joined: 16 Apr 2005 Location: A place called MD |
430. Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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When people come up behind you and yell Fail! in your ear while you are trying to pass a hard song. |
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T33J4Y Trick Member
Joined: 25 Mar 2005 Location: Macedon, NY |
431. Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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When noah dances in front of the screen while yelling "You better get a AA!!!" |
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L. Trick Member
Joined: 24 Mar 2005 Location: Chicago |
432. Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 2:10 pm Post subject: ?? |
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OMG this girl was a cousin of a friend at school and she was @ Beginner while I was @ heavy. I'm blurring Standard/Heavy, so I did Graduation (7f), and then w/o notice, she picks Tears (9f) and I suck. Tho I can do Bag and get a C. (simply proud)
Also, I do unsanctioned shadowing all the time. With the Gurnee, IL posse, I shadowed for A Heavy 3x, so... _________________
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Laundry Trick Member
Joined: 28 Mar 2005 Location: YOUR IMAGNITNITNATION |
433. Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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Alezay Trick Member
Joined: 21 Mar 2005 Location: Looking At The Sky..... |
434. Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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The only things that bother me are:
The ignorant fags who don't know what a coin line is, so they take the coins, thinking it's charity and use it for their game.
The off beat noobs that shadow so completly off beat it's sad. I don't mind if it's like, my little brother or something. But just an ignorant "I can do better than you" type.
Little kids that spill or drop their shit on the pad while I'm playing, try to pick it up, get stepped on, and have their moms yell at me. All while I'm playing. Last time that happened I stopped my game and launched the little kids sucker at her face and it hit her good. Since I know the owner and she tried to get ME kicked out, he kicked her out.
And last but no least, people that always pick 10's trying to show off and fail yet try to make me fail because they don't want to look stupid. _________________
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L. Trick Member
Joined: 24 Mar 2005 Location: Chicago |
435. Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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Idiots who refer to it as Dance Dance Revolution, and even after they learn it's also called DDR, still call it Dance Dance Revolution. *coughcoughmyfriendmarkcoughcough* He's like "There's a Dance Dance Revolution Extreme @ Rinkside!" Wow. I know. You sound retarded. _________________
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Brick Tamland(LoveRevenG) Trick Member
Joined: 21 Apr 2005 Location: NC |
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Jupichan Trick Member
Joined: 05 Apr 2005
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437. Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 6:47 am Post subject: |
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How about no?
Everyone, whether they're good or bad at the game, has the right to play.
Unless they're being an asshat and destroying the machine. |
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Unit_Zero Trick Member
Joined: 12 May 2005 Location: Channahon, IL |
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Topherâ¶âRocks Trick Member
Joined: 17 Jan 2005 Location: Long Island, NY |
439. Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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Playing against Lexsip is aggrivating for me. I played him on Ultramix once and we did Outer Limits heavy. Thats the only 10footer that I can beat and thats a C and thats a ton of work. He got C first time ever playing it against me. grr. _________________
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