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0. PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 1:37 pm    Post subject: Ranking the 12s Reply with quote

How would you rank the Level 12 songs in terms of difficulty? My list, from hardest to easiest, would probably be like this:

1. Euphoria
2. Hardcore of the North
3. Delerium
4. Tell
5. VerTex
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1. PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Euphoria is definitely #1, and vertex and delerium are at the bottom... I haven't played itg enough to be sure.
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2. PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To Pass: [Easiest to Most Difficult]

1. VerTex
2. Tell
3. Delerium
4. Hardcore of the North
5. Euphoria

To score: [Easiest to Most Difficult]

1. Delerium
2. VerTex
3. Hardcore of the North
4. Tell
5. Euphoria
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3. PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easiest to Hardest

1. VerTex
2. Tell
3. Hardcore of the North
4. Delirium
5. Euphoria
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4. PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SPF5.Kiba wrote:
To Pass: [Easiest to Most Difficult]

1. VerTex
2. Tell
3. Delerium
4. Hardcore of the North
5. Euphoria


switch tell and delerium around and your just about right E13.gif
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5. PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easiest to Hardest

VerTex
Delerium
Hardcore of the North
Tell
Euphoria
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6. PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I haven't passed any, but this how things are looking to me right now. From easiest to hardest:

1) Euphoria
2) VerTex
3, 4, 5) Delirium, HotN and Tell, in some order.

Delirium, HotN and Tell are all so obscenely hard, I can't tell how difficult they are. However, Euphoria seems pretty easy because it's so slow, and VerTex seems pretty easy other than the speed-up to 306. (Even the 612 BPM part doesn't seem that hard to me now.)
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7. PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

red shoe paul wrote:
SPF5.Kiba wrote:
To Pass: [Easiest to Most Difficult]

1. VerTex
2. Tell
3. Delerium
4. Hardcore of the North
5. Euphoria


switch tell and delerium around and your just about right E13.gif


I dunno - Delerium might be a simpler song, but it's murder for someone who's weak against long 16th-note runs. Tell only really has those two runs in the middle, and beyond that it's really just three-step drumrolls most of the time with some stutter jumps thrown in.
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8. PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Delerium is definately harder than Tell to pass. And in my case, to score well on. I used to think Euphoria was the hardest 12, because it was the one that took the longest for me to pass. Back when I was first trying to pass it, the steps seemed like complete bs, but once I passed it for the first time, suddenly I just *got* it. Now it seems fairly simple to consistantly pass and score in the area of 80-85%. Euphoria is tough to be accurate on, but Hardcore of the North feels like more of a strain.

To pass (hardest to easiest):
1.) Euphoria
2.) Hardcore of the North
(Pandemonium Hard would be about here)
3.) Delerium
4.) Tell
(The Beginning, July)
5.) Vertex

To consistantly pass or score well on:
1+2.) Hardcore of the North and Euphoria tie (HOTN seems a lot more draining, but isn't nearly as tough to FC or FA)
3.) Delerium (I find this really difficult, personally)
4.) Vertex (Simple to pass, but the bpm changes make FA tricky, and loads mines are there to lower your score. Mini is a crutch.)
5.) Tell (first time passing: 69%, second time: 85%, third: 86% [it starts feeling a ton easier])


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9. PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To Pass: [Easiest to Most Difficult]

1. VerTex
2. Delirium
3. Tell
4. Hardcore of the North
5. Euphoria

To score: [Easiest to Most Difficult]

1. Delerium
2. VerTex
3. Tell
4. Hardcore of the North
5. Euphoria

It took me longer to pass Euphoria(6) than it did to pass Pandemonium(2). Then again, perhaps practicing 12s gave me enough stamina to pass Pandemonium in fewer tries than when I had almost none lol.
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10. PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say Euphoria is the universal hardest because not only of the psuedo high-speed of it (ie 32nd notes) but also the step patterns of the song are incredibly hard.

Second I would Put Hardcore of the North. A step under Euph, but that still makes it hard.

Then Delirium, it's pretty basic as far as patterns go, and a lot of the song is rel;axing. It's just the 16th runs that you have to prepare for.

After that Is Vertex-I can't read high speed very well, and Vertex IMO is just an Intimidating-SOUNDING song. However it's actually not as crazy hard as the others.

I haven't played Tell yet so I don't know where to put it.
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11. PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Loogaroo wrote:
red shoe paul wrote:
SPF5.Kiba wrote:
To Pass: [Easiest to Most Difficult]

1. VerTex
2. Tell
3. Delerium
4. Hardcore of the North
5. Euphoria


switch tell and delerium around and your just about right E13.gif


I dunno - Delerium might be a simpler song, but it's murder for someone who's weak against long 16th-note runs. Tell only really has those two runs in the middle, and beyond that it's really just three-step drumrolls most of the time with some stutter jumps thrown in.


Actually tell is pretty simple. It goes along with the beat... it's really not that hard at all.
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12. PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xx_BelovedInsanity_xX wrote:

Actually tell is pretty simple. It goes along with the beat... it's really not that hard at all.


yeah...except for the fact that there's a jump on every cymbal hit...that makes for a lot of jumps. it's one of my better 12s though (88.9% last time I played it)...

I personally rank them like this (easiest to hardest)

Delirium
Vertex
Tell
Euphoria
HCOTN
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13. PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im weird, but this is my list...

passing Easiest to Hardest

Delirium
Vertex
HCOTN
Euphoria
Tell

Those dam stupid runs -_- disgust.gif Always kill me
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14. PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, you managed to bump a post and flame in it. Nice!
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15. PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SPF5.Kiba wrote:
Well, you managed to bump a post and flame in it. Nice!


I assume the post in question was deleted?
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16. PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

for me to pass...

Vertex
Delirium
Euphoria
Tell
HotN

for me to FA
Vertex
Tell
Delirium
HotN
Euphoria


haha, yea im weird.
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17. PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well hey, there are more 12s now, so we might as well bring this thread back.

I'm ranking these to pass, because I'm not good enough to score on them and ratings are for passing anyway.

1. Bloodrush
2. Determinator
3. Hardcore of the North
4. Delirium
5. Tell
6. Energizer
7. Go 60 Go
8. Euphoria
9. !
10. VerTex

However, I'm pretty weird... putting Euphoria all the way down at #8 and Delirium up at #4.
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18. PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My scores on 12's from worst to best:

1. Tell (i'll improve it soon though)
2. Euphoria
3. Determinator
4. Bloodrush
(Summer would go here - yes, i find 4 12's harder than it =( )
5. Go 60 Go
6. Hardcore of the North
7. !
8. Energizer
9. Delirium
10. Vertex
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19. PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, why not... Here's my list. Hardest to easiest for me to pass:

1. Bloodrush
2. Determinator
(Summer -speedy mix-)
3. Tell
4. Euphoria
5. Hardcore of the North
(Pandemonium hard)
6. Delirium
7. Energizer
8. Go 60 Go
9. !
(July)
10. VerTex
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