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IguanaGrrl
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0. PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 8:54 am    Post subject: Video game composers gain respect in the industry Reply with quote

In a recent article by Greg Kasavin of GameSpot, video game composers, including Jesper Kyd of Ultramix 2 fame, expressed their thoughts on the industry and the evolution of video game music composition as an art form. It's a good read for a further in depth look at an often ignored craft.
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1. PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Umm... should this be under the general games form E4.gif

O.K so DDr is a music game, but other games have music! erm.gif
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2. PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ohh... Jeez I didn't see it in the front web page... sooooo sorry!


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3. PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So true. It doesn't matter how good a song is, if it's in a video game no one wants to listen to it. frown.gif

I mean, these folks are not sellouts. They strive to make great soundtracks for games. Yet no one ever thanks them for their work.

My favorite game soundtracks are those of Gradius Gaiden, Cho Ren Sha (an old 2D shooter for the X68K computer), DoDonPachi, IIDX E13.gif, and Ikaruga.

Oh, and this article wins a cookie for mentioning Wangan Midnight (the game series).
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4. PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep... some video game music is good, I would listen to it more but I can't find to many CD's and I can't buy any right now anyway laugh.gif
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5. PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gs68 wrote:
So true. It doesn't matter how good a song is, if it's in a video game no one wants to listen to it. frown.gif

Yeah, I mean VGMix and OCRemix are just there because the webmasters like making layouts. And no one's ever heard the names Nobou, Koji Kando, Hirukazo Ando, etc.
I mean, it's not like there are actual concerts where orchestras play only arrangements of video game music.

...Oh wait.
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I hope I'm not the only fan of Nobuo Uematsu (Final Fantasy). Lest you belittle me by calling me a "fanboy", just listen to One Winged Angel from the Final Fantasy VII soundtrack. It's amazing.
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7. PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The_Austin wrote:
I hope I'm not the only fan of Nobuo Uematsu (Final Fantasy). Lest you belittle me by calling me a "fanboy", just listen to One Winged Angel from the Final Fantasy VII soundtrack. It's amazing.

Go and watch a The Black Mages concert. Seriously.
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8. PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IguanaGirl, thanks for pointing that out on what you said on the update. Composting IS an art form, I myself compose songs, I took piano lessons for 2 1/2 years.

Anyway, I better not ramble on anymore, good work E1.gif.
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9. PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very cool, thanks for pointing the article out. Video game music is extremely important to me when playing a game. Great music can make a great game into a timeless experience, and make a so-so game a lot more enjoyable, to me, at least.

I myself would like to compose music for games in the future...
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'Ivan wrote:
The_Austin wrote:
I hope I'm not the only fan of Nobuo Uematsu (Final Fantasy). Lest you belittle me by calling me a "fanboy", just listen to One Winged Angel from the Final Fantasy VII soundtrack. It's amazing.

Go and watch a The Black Mages concert. Seriously.


I hate to say this, but both "The Black Mages" CD's didn't sound all that good at all. I guess when you think Nobou Uemastu, you would never think of the plucking of electronic guitars.

I love Rock music as well, but those CD's didn't symbolize Final Fantasy to me. The Classical genre is the only genre that can do it. I applaud the effort, but it was truely a miss here.

Moving right along; I've always loved game music, ever since the days of the graceful famicom. I'll stuff my Ipod with as much 8-bit music as I can find. This stuff is so unique, that it feels like it has it's own aura, when I listen to it.

For the most part, I only listen to game music. There is no other industry that strives for such a high level of perfection moreso than the game industry(not taking anything away from the performing arts industry happy.gifE13.gif.

I just wish people in the general public weren't such ignorant bastards, and would give us our own section at all the local music stores. I have to order online, and pay outrages prices for my soundtracks.

BUT I'LL KEEP DOING SO!!! OUR BELOVED INDUSTRY DESERVES THIS KIND OF DEVOTION!!!!

My biggest question is.... If video games are so popular now-a-days; Why does video game music still have this kind of reputation?

Oh well, My Ninja Gaiden(NES), Guardian Legend, Final Fantasy, and Chrono Cross OST's will still live in infamy(sp?).

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11. PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find it sad that even in this day and age video game music and their composers still get no respect from the elite among the music community, as well as the general public. Of course, public perception is slowly changing as video games become more mainstream, but the fact of the matter is that most people tend to look at graphics and visual effects before they listen to the audio. frown.gif

The truth is, video games have always had their fair share of good music and soundtracks, even back in the 8-bit and 16-bit eras. One of the names I fondly recall back in the early 8-bit days, and I'm surprised nobody's mentioned, is Koichii Sugiyama, composer of the Dragon Quest / Dragon Warrior games back in the days of the NES. He, along with Nobuo Uematsu, Yuzo Koshiro, Tim Follett, and others I'm sure, paved the way for the current generation of composers we have nowadays. To other people, it may have been bleeps and boops, but to me, that was what I grew up listening to, and I'm not ashamed to say I own soundtracks from those eras. Heck, I can remember humming Dragon Warrior's theme back when I was a kid, or Actraiser, or Chrono Trigger, or any other theme that struck my fancy at the time. Fact of the matter is, we didn't have to wait until the Playstation came out for us to hear good video game music. Video gamers have known that for some time, but the rest are only realizing that just now.

It's high time that these composers who work so hard to make music that will fit the game get noticed. We live in a surround sound DVD culture now, so it's not like it isn't for lack of technology. Maybe the mainstream music culture and record companies will wake up one day and realize that if they don't start producing better material, they just might be lost in the shuffle of their competition, video game music composers.
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