Server downtime

J Dogg · Administrator Joined: 16 Jan 2002 Location: Sunnyvale, CA

I am very sorry for the downtime we have been experiencing lately. We will be upgrading the server in the next week, so there will probably be some more downtime in the near future. After that, however, everything should be stable again. Thanks for your patience.
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not dryad · Trick Member Joined: 24 Jan 2002

does this mean we're finally moving to php 2.2? also, will the jason tags become passe when we upgrade?

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Spike · Administrator Joined: 17 Jan 2002 Location: Denver

ch · Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 7:32 am Post subject:

and XML?!?

xml updates on threads and main page listings would be awesome.
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CStarFlare wrote:

I approve of the direction this thread is going

http://www.xtranormal.com/watch?e=20090310025322668

Cutriss · Staff Member Joined: 24 Jan 2002

I can't for the life of me figure out why you'd want us to output XML unless you wanted an automated parser. >.>

Is it that you *really* want an RSS feed?
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ch · Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 9:01 am Post subject:

well, having knowledge of whether or not theres an update without having to load up the whole page is nice.
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CStarFlare wrote:

I approve of the direction this thread is going

http://www.xtranormal.com/watch?e=20090310025322668

Cutriss · Staff Member Joined: 24 Jan 2002

Well, you can already subscribe to specific threads in phpBB. At the bottom of a thread, under the reply button, hit the link that says "Watch this topic for replies".

As for the main page, I don't know anything about RSS myself, but I'm sure we could probably put together something for that. We're actually talking about having a sign-up newsletter for front-page topics that you could subscribe to if you wanted.
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ch · Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:52 am Post subject:

thread updates through e-mail i know of

site updates through e-mail?
or site updates through new and improved XML 2.0?

its hip
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CStarFlare wrote:

I approve of the direction this thread is going

http://www.xtranormal.com/watch?e=20090310025322668

evn · Staff Member Joined: 23 Jan 2002 Location: Calgary AB

Bah! XML sucks on the web (unless you're using it with xmlhttprequest, then XML is great and browsers suck).

I don't think it would be too hard to whip up an RSS feed for the headlines forum. I suppose there will be more talk about changes when phpbb3 is finally available.
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evn · Staff Member Joined: 23 Jan 2002 Location: Calgary AB

Additionally, I haven't been following XML 2.0 development very closely but the last time I checked it was still a draft and XML 1.0 Third Edition and 1.1 were the most recent recommendations.
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ch · Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:37 pm Post subject:

feh.
i tried.
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CStarFlare wrote:

I approve of the direction this thread is going

http://www.xtranormal.com/watch?e=20090310025322668

Cutriss · Staff Member Joined: 24 Jan 2002

ch · Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 3:12 pm Post subject:

xml gives you an instant feed of whats going on in the website without having to go through and check your e-mail every few minutes.

like if your watching a topic, and you go check your rss feed, and theres no updates, you'll see it right away without having to go to your e-mail. but if there is a new reply, you can click right on the link from the feed.

faster and easier than e-mail, and not too hard to implement.

for a quick example, check out www.megatokyo.com's rss feed. it tells you, almost up-to-the-minute, of whether or not theres an update available (a new cartoon, a new rant, w/e). and with firefox, you can add that feed as a live bookmark, so the feed is right in your links/favorites folder.
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CStarFlare wrote:

I approve of the direction this thread is going

http://www.xtranormal.com/watch?e=20090310025322668

Edible Bondage Tape · Trick Member Joined: 26 Jan 2002 Location: Kerri

then agian you could point the emial thing to yahoo

and have trillian on and itll tell you when you get new mail

no crappy xml codeing to be done here
and you dont have to check yoru emial every few minutes either casue trillian will tell you when you have some (and even who it is from in a little unobtrusive pop up)
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Cutriss · Staff Member Joined: 24 Jan 2002

I hesitate to think that you'd be anywhere where you could run a RSS tracker and *not* an e-mail client.

An RSS feed for the main page is doable, and probably a good idea. RSS feeds for subscribed forums is probably more work than it's worth, IMHO.
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ch · Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 4:16 pm Post subject:

i already do that.
but it doesnt tell me if its ddr or otherwise in its popup, just "you have one(1) new mail"

and yes, each thread having xml is very large scale.
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CStarFlare wrote:

I approve of the direction this thread is going

http://www.xtranormal.com/watch?e=20090310025322668

evn · Staff Member Joined: 23 Jan 2002 Location: Calgary AB

Depending on how extensive the modification to the forums are when we upgrade to PHPBB2 it might be possible. If the site is still well formed (if not valid) XHTML transitional then it should be too hard to transform any given from to an RSS feed. I've done a little bit of work with XML transformations for work (mostly to provide HTML4 versions of XML data).

Per-thread subscriptions are way more work than it's worth as far as I'm concerned, but I think that maybe a feed showing the last 5 active topics in a forum or maybe the contents of the front page would be reasonably easy.

I'll have more interest in what XML and RSS/ATOM can do for the web when Mac OS X 10.4 starts shipping (Dashboard looks hella-good).
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Edible Bondage Tape · Trick Member Joined: 26 Jan 2002 Location: Kerri

ch · Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 6:59 pm Post subject:

can you depend on everyone getting yahoo mail and trillian?

or can you depend on everyone having a web browser?
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CStarFlare wrote:

I approve of the direction this thread is going

http://www.xtranormal.com/watch?e=20090310025322668