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0. PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 4:16 pm    Post subject: DDRUK.com's Closure... Reply with quote

Did you guys see it? DDRUK.com is temporary closed... thats a bummer for all those n00bs who need songs, haha. Discuss.
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1. PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think anyone used it for anything except to get .dwi's, anyway.
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2. PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a rumor that the IFPI may choose to prosecute the site's entire user base....

but the rumor comes from someone who likes to rile people up, so I dunno....
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3. PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

People on GameFAQs are saying that the users who down/uploaded stuff will get a fine.

I downloaded nearly 200 simfiles from there.

.............. I'm nervous as heck right now.
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4. PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kotetsu213 wrote:
People on GameFAQs are saying that the users who down/uploaded stuff will get a fine.


But that "Legal FAQ" that got posted was written by someone who likes to worry people unnecessarily, or so I heard.....so that tidbit of info abotu user fines is still in the rumor stage.
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5. PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kotetsu213 wrote:
People on GameFAQs are saying that the users who down/uploaded stuff will get a fine.

I downloaded nearly 200 simfiles from there.

.............. I'm nervous as heck right now.



yeah, so am I. how will they be able to tell who uploaded/downloaded stuff?

the site did say no legal action was being pursued, which is some relief.
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6. PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not the first time something like this has happened, I guess. If you had a site pumping out that many MP3s and they said "Right, we want logs or we are going to poopy on you", you'd probably not be debating it too long. Didn't those other guys who got made an example of get fined $150,000 per song or something like that?
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7. PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry for double post, I managed to hit Quote instead of Edit >_<

Meowzy wrote:

yeah, so am I. how will they be able to tell who uploaded/downloaded stuff?

the site did say no legal action was being pursued, which is some relief.


DDRUK keeps logs. That's how they get bittorrent stats for everyone. I assume so, anyway, otherwise how would they know? The FAQ thing said no action will be taken against MYST. That's how I read it, anyway. I'm going to sit tight on this one. Hopefully my ISP will respect my privacy more than the average US one after being strongarmed.
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8. PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If there's anybody to pay a fine, it's the site, not the users. As far as I've seen, lawsuits are aimed at hosts, not downloaders.
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9. PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Geez man, that's some scary s**t. Is this fine rumor limited to British users or is it international? I hope that doesn't go through. Yikes.

Phew. It's times like this I'm glad I don't deal with pirated/copyright infringement stuff. blink.gif
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10. PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm glad my computer sucks to much to download anything at all.

But why would people get in trouble for transferring files they made themselves? Isn't it true that all simfiles, even if they were the original steps, were made by someone that isn't Konami, therefore making it OK for them to freely transfer them, since they made it?
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11. PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The .dwi files themselves are legal. The mp3's are not.
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12. PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

guysitsRez wrote:
The .dwi files themselves are legal. The mp3's are not.


WRONG.

They've simply re-interpreted the steps into another format that can be readable by DWI and SM... that's like saying the MP3 of a song isn't illegal even though it was converted from a copyrighted CD.
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13. PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you've uploaded anything, you could get a fine. MAYBE. If anything was taken against the site it would be the owner and managers of it.

Anyone targeted by the RIAA during the huge busts about file sharing were people who shared their music. Downloading is something no one can stop.
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14. PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i've always been under the impression that mp3s were legal if they were downloaded directly from the internet and not off some p2p software. and if that's false, then windows media player should be outlawed.

as for uploading, bemanistyle members could get a big-ass fine. unless you were talking about the official uploads. and even then blah blab blah i'll shut up now *wanders off to random chat*
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15. PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

annon wrote:
i've always been under the impression that mp3s were legal if they were downloaded directly from the internet and not off some p2p software. and if that's false, then windows media player should be outlawed.


HAHAHAHHAHA.

That's a good one.

And why should Windows Media Player be outlawed by that logic? If you use it to download an illegal song, then that's your fault, not WMP's.
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16. PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh well.
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17. PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Canadians are most likely immune to any fines or lawsuits brought forward as a result of this. The courts ruled that downloading copyrighted MP3s is not illegal. It stemmed from the RIAA (or a similar organization) trying to put forth lawsuits against Canadians, the supreme court told them to screw off E10.gif
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18. PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

arnoct wrote:
Canadians are most likely immune to any fines or lawsuits brought forward as a result of this. The courts ruled that downloading copyrighted MP3s is not illegal. It stemmed from the RIAA (or a similar organization) trying to put forth lawsuits against Canadians, the supreme court told them to screw off E10.gif


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19. PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i use bittorrent and/or take blank cds over to my friends and get all the songs i need he even makes some songs
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