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Amayain
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0. PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 6:13 am    Post subject: Newb questions.. Reply with quote

Hey, i am just getting into the world of DDR and have a few questions.
Since i don't have a console, i was going to use my PC and Stepmania. My first question is if there is any real advantage to going out an buying a console, or will the sim'd version be just as good. I know this is kinda subjective and i am sure there are minor differences, but is there anything that would really make me enjoy it significantly less?

Secondly, i was looking to get a RedOctane Metal Pad and a converter. The stepmania site says that some converters aren't fully functional (because of the inability to regiser left-right and up-down). Are there any converters that i should specifically be using?

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1. PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should check out the adaptor sticky for info on convertors and stuff.

Good job your other question is there otherwise I'd kapow this.
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2. PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

converters

Stepmania is way better than home versions. There are millions of songs avaliable to download, you can make your own steps for any song you want, and you can impliment your own music videos. The only issue is that Stepmania caters to people who are more computer savvy. You have to be decent with computers to know how to use Stepmania. Try getting both a home version(s) and Stepmania and see how it goes.

Home versions are really just for convience. The problem with American home versions is that the timing is easier and their are very few of them. Japanese home versions are more arcade accurate and much more plentiful. Unfortunately they are more expensive, especially if you include 1 of the many options of playing Japanese PS1 and/or PS2 games here in the states.
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3. PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stepmania might be the way to go for you. Change the timing window to match that of the arcades (see forum topic) and download all of the song packs from DDRUK.
Don't buy a redoctane metal pad, they suck. Mine died after a week of play.
Use the money you saved on NOT buying a console and get a Cobalt Flux instead. It's a much better pad, even though It doesn't jive the best with SM... But those problems can be worked out
Hope that helped.
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4. PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stepmania with pads requires the timing and metrics to be adjusted so that it is close to the arcade values. If you dont change the values, your perfect attack will be TERRIBLE on an actual arcade machine.

Console is closer to the arcade timing than stepmania. Your perfect attack on arcade will not be as bad.

Ive learned from experience. I started playing on stepmania 3.0 with default settings. I had that setup for about 4 months. When I played on the arcade, I usually got more greats than perfects. It took a WHILE to finally get the timing back down for the arcade.

All in all:
Console if you want to get good on the arcade.
Stepmania if you just want to play for the fun.
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5. PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To buy a console just to play DDR would be a waste of money. StepMania would suit you quite well. Be sure to adjust the timing windows like mentioned before.

Personally, I use SM with a metal BNS pad and a Red Octane adapter. I have yet to encounter a problem. The only annoying thing is that I have to do the hold up, press start trick every time I start but other than that its fine.

Another thing you will find yourself doing (at least I do anyway) is playing the computer games with a PS2 controller. It is fun, but defined the buttons in tedious sometimes.
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6. PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 4:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Newb questions.. Reply with quote

Amayain wrote:
Hey, i am just getting into the world of DDR and have a few questions.


Cool, another person supporting Bemani E1.gif

Amayain wrote:
Since i don't have a console, i was going to use my PC and Stepmania. My first question is if there is any real advantage to going out an buying a console, or will the sim'd version be just as good. I know this is kinda subjective and i am sure there are minor differences, but is there anything that would really make me enjoy it significantly less?


Well, right of the bat, you're kind of breaking a few...eh...laws. I mean copyright laws, blah blah blah, it's confusing, but I'll stay on track. This is all I want to hear about this ><! Just get the simfiles, try to support and buy Bemani as much as possible and everything'll work out fine. Going out and buying a console just for DDR is kinda..well...extreme (no pun intended) but I guess if you can get a PlayStation 1 you can see what the real stuff in DDR is about, as there are solid PS1 DDR games, both USA and Import nerd.gif

If not, they're selling that new slimmed down PS2 for $149.99, complete with everything ready to play PS1 and PS2 Bemani (which is a term for all music games made by Konami, includes DDR, Pop'N Music, beatmania, beatmania IIDX, Dance Maniax, and all the such music games that are popular in Japan). Playing imports is a whole 'nother ball game, so stick to USA games, or look to buy a pre-modified system (Google is your friend biggrin.gif )

Amayain wrote:
Secondly, i was looking to get a RedOctane Metal Pad and a converter. The stepmania site says that some converters aren't fully functional (because of the inability to regiser left-right and up-down). Are there any converters that i should specifically be using?

Thanks for your help E1.gif



Red Octane is great, if you want a cheap (5 bucks!) converter, you will want to check over here. Just make sure you have a printer port in the back of your computer, and you're good to go. I bought the Parralell -> PS2 converter that I mentioned, and it works wonders (no left+right or whatever kind of problems). $11.20 with 3 day shipping, and it shipped from the company the next day. Flawless, highly reccommened. It says guarenteed to work with only Sony, well, I have a ton of 3rd party controllers and they all work excellently.

Also, before you splurge 150 for a RO, try looking at a nice, shiny, literally, unbreakable Cobalt Flux for only 300. This thing, literally, was ran over by car after car and still could get a 300 combo on Holic. How much better of a pad can you get? Comes complete with everything you need to hook it up, etc, kind of a dream pad, but worth looking at still E13.gif

If you're interested in getting SimFiles legally, look up some gamer-made simfiles on the web - there are some. But if you want to really get the full experience, I'd get the correspoding Official Sound Track (aka OST) as you were downloading.

I saw you mention PC, which version of Windows?
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