The SM Timing Window Configurations

D r S a n e · Trick Member Joined: 07 Jul 2004

Oh, so you are talking about this part of what he said:

"DDR arcade mix timings aren't based off of seconds, they're based on frames, marvelous is 1 frame, perfect is 2, etc. If you divide these frame counts by 60(the amount of frames displayed in a second on 5th - 8th mix) then you get these timings. "

This never mentions anything about the frames being dependent on the speed of the song. This just means that the timing window is determined by the frame counts being divided by 60. Not that Step Mania just porportionally equates it for other BPMs. It's one set timing window that was determined by the frame counts in relation to a standard 60 BPM speed.

(I hope that's what you meant; that how you find it difficult to believe that different scrolling speeds=different windows, sorry if I didn't understand you.)

MPB3.Radio · Trick Member Joined: 05 Dec 2002 Location: P-Town

I don't see why frames even need to be mentioned if it's just a time increment. A frame-based tap judgement system would be inconsistent and measuring by distance in pixels would also be flawed when frame skips occur. So I don't see what relevance the framerate has with tap judgement since using that as a basis would break the game. Besides, if it was that simple than simulators wouldn't base their judgement solely on time measurements.

D r S a n e · Trick Member Joined: 07 Jul 2004

A frame implies equal increments meaning that all frames will be divided by a set amount of time, in contrast to exponential increments in the timing window or something else silly. I hope that answers your question.

TehWhack · Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 8:47 pm Post subject:

Does anyone know what is the accurate LIFE difficulty for DDR extreme ?

D r S a n e · Trick Member Joined: 07 Jul 2004

That's a good point, but they are probably roughly the same because I either get C's or fail at the arcade, or get C's or fail on my homepad. Either way I have never got a D. There is probably a small difference, but that would still be good anyways. I can then change this topic to a "Step Mania Configurations" Topic.

Anyone?

Icee of AUG · Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 6:34 am Post subject:

Thanks you sooooooooo much for putting this up I have looked everywhere.

When I get my flux it will be just like the arcade now

AznCaraboo · Trick Member Joined: 18 Feb 2004

D r S a n e · Trick Member Joined: 07 Jul 2004

That you can probably blame on the music offset. The pads at the arcade have different response time then those at home etc. You just need to offset the music to the same response time as the arcade, and since all the songs were converted to SM by different artists, they will all have different response times. That's why I can PA better at the arcade.

If you are consistently good at PA, just do Tears or whatever song and play it through with autosync once, and save the Music Offset configuration. Then play the song again without autosync and the Music Offset will be set to the response time you were just playing at (which if you are used to the arcade that is what it will be). It should be fine then.

Remember, this is just to get as realistically close to the arcade as possible, it's not perfect.

If you're still having problems let me know, but all it will probably do is give me a big egoboost (I haven't been to the arcade for a while, and yet with these configurations I have 4 Heavy SDGs in only playing for a month and 15 days.)

Good luck.

[DMB]dman.exe · Trick Member Joined: 28 Mar 2003

I call this one...the sync tester. Get ONE Perfect with this, and your simfile is good:

JudgeWindowScale=0.660000
JudgeWindowSecondsAttack=0.135000
JudgeWindowSecondsBoo=0.180000
JudgeWindowSecondsGood=0.135000
JudgeWindowSecondsGreat=0.090000
JudgeWindowSecondsMarvelous=0.00001
JudgeWindowSecondsMine=0.090000
JudgeWindowSecondsOK=0.250000
JudgeWindowSecondsPerfect=0.00010
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D r S a n e · Trick Member Joined: 07 Jul 2004

Why? That perfect could easily have been a mishap, just as any other great...o_O

Besides, you might even fail before then.

If you want a sync tester, hit Autoplay and Assist Tick, if it sounds in sync, then you're set.

Pantera · Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 4:08 pm Post subject:

[DMB]dman.exe · Trick Member Joined: 28 Mar 2003

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AznCaraboo · Trick Member Joined: 18 Feb 2004

So if I do autosync and assist tick, will it be like the arcade [sorry for newbish questions]? The thing I do not get is what if I get a Great and it register that during Autosync [like I did it off beat]? If it's autosynced and saved - will it be "Great" as before? I bet you dunno what I'm asking... lol

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JudgeWindowScale=0.660000
JudgeWindowSecondsAttack=0.135000
JudgeWindowSecondsBoo=0.180000
JudgeWindowSecondsGood=0.135000
JudgeWindowSecondsGreat=0.090000
JudgeWindowSecondsMarvelous=0.00001
JudgeWindowSecondsMine=0.090000
JudgeWindowSecondsOK=0.250000
JudgeWindowSecondsPerfect=0.00010
--

I tried this and I couldn't get one perfect [was playing on my keyobard]

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DDR player since Aug '03

D r S a n e · Trick Member Joined: 07 Jul 2004

mikieson · Trick Member Joined: 14 Nov 2003

I just dont see where or how to change the timmings. I have the home versions of pretty much all the ddr games and can fing it on each of them and mess with it. But I just dont understand the way its set up on Stepmania3.9 rc2..... Please any help would be great. ......mike

D r S a n e · Trick Member Joined: 07 Jul 2004

mikieson · Trick Member Joined: 14 Nov 2003

different but it has all the files in it. or so it looks like it. how do you know what to change? like which one does the timing? It looks to me...when playing the game that in order to get a marvelous i have to hit the arrow early....just before i normaly would hit it.

D r S a n e · Trick Member Joined: 07 Jul 2004

amazingsupermonkey · Trick Member Joined: 18 Aug 2004