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For the people I heard trying to make the jump to AA, its a matter of hearing the beats. You have to hit the point where the steps are automatic, that is you can focus 100% of your brain on hitting the beat. Once you get it, you get it, its kinda hard to explain how until you do it
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first off, sorry if this question has already been addressed, but i did not want to wade through 33 pages.

I'm not a very technical person, who thinks about how i'm stepping, nor am I a perfectionist, I don't watch how many of a certain step i'm hitting. But I seem to have hit a wall. I play heavy, and I can beat max 300 and paranoia survivor. as for maxx unlimited, legend of max, psm(o), I'm struggling with those. Legend of Max is what I'm focused on right now, and I just cannot seem to move fast enough for the last stream. i play it on 1x and solo. that's about as easy as I can make it. any help with how to execute that last stream would be helpful. (it goes left-down-up-right-down-up, repeats. pretty much the whole stream around it aswell).
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evans wrote:
first off, sorry if this question has already been addressed, but i did not want to wade through 33 pages.

I'm not a very technical person, who thinks about how i'm stepping, nor am I a perfectionist, I don't watch how many of a certain step i'm hitting. But I seem to have hit a wall. I play heavy, and I can beat max 300 and paranoia survivor. as for maxx unlimited, legend of max, psm(o), I'm struggling with those. Legend of Max is what I'm focused on right now, and I just cannot seem to move fast enough for the last stream. i play it on 1x and solo. that's about as easy as I can make it. any help with how to execute that last stream would be helpful. (it goes left-down-up-right-down-up, repeats. pretty much the whole stream around it aswell).


To be honest, I don't know how to really help you frown.gif. I don't have a problem with the stream other than having the stamina and balance (balance is the main prob E2.gif ). You could try using just the very back heel of your foot and the tip of your foot to hit the arrows so you don't have to move your feet that much.

Hmmm..You seem to have the speed and the stamina, and you can certianly read the arrows. So, what exactly is the problem when you reach that part? I can try to help you out a bit more if you could explain more in depth of what actually occurs when you reach the stream (death run).

Lastly, hopefully someone else can better help you--maybe someone with more experience or that can pass LoM.

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the big problem is after the freeze arrows, i'm dead. 1.5x is too fast, and 1x is too slow. so when im reading the notes on the first part, i make some unneeded steps(goods, getting ahead of the arrows etc.). i should be able to practice now though. metal pad gets here pretty soon. so, really its most of the stuff after the freeze. but a little practice should help. thanks for the help though
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evans wrote:
the big problem is after the freeze arrows, i'm dead. 1.5x is too fast, and 1x is too slow. so when im reading the notes on the first part, i make some unneeded steps(goods, getting ahead of the arrows etc.). i should be able to practice now though. metal pad gets here pretty soon. so, really its most of the stuff after the freeze. but a little practice should help. thanks for the help though


Good to hear E1.gif. Good luck with that--as I do agree that it is difficult to read at 1.5x for LoM.

Also, you could practiced reading on 1x with slower songs, and if that's too slow, then move down to 1.5x and then 1x. That should help if you can't seem to get the hang of reading the arrows at 1.5x on LoM

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I am curious to know if anyone has ever had this problem. Whenever I get astream of the same notes that i percieve as fast, such as eight notes left down left down left down etc. on Max 300 or the 16th notes from Lovin You, i try to go to fast and end up not even picking up my foot so i don't hit the note.

By the way, this only happens with 2 of the same notes in a row like right up right up etc, or left right left right etc.

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Lucidity_Master wrote:
I am curious to know if anyone has ever had this problem. Whenever I get astream of the same notes that i percieve as fast, such as eight notes left down left down left down etc. on Max 300 or the 16th notes from Lovin You, i try to go to fast and end up not even picking up my foot so i don't hit the note.

By the way, this only happens with 2 of the same notes in a row like right up right up etc, or left right left right etc.

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actually, yeah i have. it comes from pretty much getting too anxious. the way i fixed it is i just got more comfortable with the song, play it more or whatever. it also helps to follow a baseline in the music. correct me if im wrong but you're talking about those notes around 30-50 in max 300, right? if so, those follow the underlying baseline perfectly, just step to that beat and look at the direction.
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Hey there, Im pretty new to this as this being my frist post E13.gif
I have a question regarding this topic, but there are so many details, i might as well start from the begining.

I was first introduced to DDR through a friend, who was going through a wannabe raver stage, and surrounded himself with anything that spa techno or tance at him, so he bought max1 and an octane pad. At this point most of my other friends were following in his direction, and i felt left behind in the dust, so i steped on the dance mat for the first time riiight.gif
followed by about $30 in glowsticks ($1 a piece) and huge baggy pants from hot topic, just to fit in with my own friends goog.gif

Anyways After some time i enjoyed the game allot, and got progressivly better at it, so i bought the home version, to which i mastered the level of light with an A on every song. (mastering to me E13.gif ) and so i switched to standard, and around this phase this whole raver thing was way out of hand and at this time i was a freshman in Highschool and extremely depressed(see the raving thing goog.gif )

Im sure you dont want to hear my life story so i will fast forward...

I started heavy a while ago, and i noticed that my friends have much better stamina than I have, and after one song, im totally exausted and i feel like im gona faint and barf at the same time, Ive also noticed that some people stomp on the arroxs somewhat flat footed, while i play on the front of my foot and lift my heel into the air, Is this normal? And if so why do i get exauhsted all the time?! ive taken like 2 glasses of water usually before i go, and even then i get toally wasted afte the first song, tripping all of the place, and failing the song for the most part, so can anyone help me? E4.gif

(btw: Raver phase over, and depression: gone E13.gif )
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i think the stamina issue was addressed in another thread (im not mad), but yeah, the basics are sleep, food, water, stretching. all of which can increase youre stamina. but if you just want to get stronger, you just have to play more. or work out, but wheres the fun in that (ddr is just a game, you know).

stepping is pretty personal, some people like to be up on their toes. i believe that this allows you to move faster, but you can be more erratic and less accurate. if you have a song pretty nailed down, stomping(whole foot) is a bit slower, but it can keep you on pace better, not to mention, stomping provides better balance.

im speaking from experience, so you can take all of this at face value. i dont study this stuff or anything.
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evans wrote:
i think the stamina issue was addressed in another thread (im not mad), but yeah, the basics are sleep, food, water, stretching. all of which can increase youre stamina. but if you just want to get stronger, you just have to play more. or work out, but wheres the fun in that (ddr is just a game, you know).

stepping is pretty personal, some people like to be up on their toes. i believe that this allows you to move faster, but you can be more erratic and less accurate. if you have a song pretty nailed down, stomping(whole foot) is a bit slower, but it can keep you on pace better, not to mention, stomping provides better balance.

im speaking from experience, so you can take all of this at face value. i dont study this stuff or anything.

Yeah thats how it seems in tha arcade , you nailed it down almost perfectly E4.gif thanks for the advice
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hi i'm new to these boards, and my skills are probably about the same as the above poster's (i recently AA'd Dream a Dream, and that's a major accomplishment). I can read the arrows fine, but I'm having serious trouble with my foot speed. Songs that require me to do right foot only stuff are extremely hard for me, and when i tried the heel-toe-heel thing i fell on my buttocks frust.gif . are there any other techniques for RFO or LFO stuff?
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evans wrote:
stepping is pretty personal, some people like to be up on their toes. i believe that this allows you to move faster, but you can be more erratic and less accurate. if you have a song pretty nailed down, stomping(whole foot) is a bit slower, but it can keep you on pace better, not to mention, stomping provides better balance.

im speaking from experience, so you can take all of this at face value. i dont study this stuff or anything.


i think here is probably where you've been having your problem with the LoM stream at the end. If you've seen any perfectionsists and 1337 kids play, a lot of them are never on their toes when they play 10 footers. using your whole foot does not make you go slower, it actually makes everything easier. to effectively use your whole foot, you need to practice on using your heel on the down arrow instead of luggin your whole foot down there to hit it with your toe. there's four sensors to each arrow, one on each of the four sides. focus on only hitting the sensor that's closest to the middle of the pad. if you master this, then you end up needing to move your feet VERY little to hit the arrows you need. now back to LoM. if you can master the whole foot technique well, then it is much easier to get that stream and you'll find that you actually CAN move your feet faster this way, as apposed to the using your toes which forces you to swing your entire legs around like a mad man trying to hit those arrows that fast.

whole foot technique:
1.) reduces fatigue, therefore easier to play fast songs
2.) increases balance incredibly
3.) perfects your overall PA
4.) makes you look like a LEET. E7.gif

remember, your heels are your friend, use them all the time.
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thanks a lot mate that seems to be just what i needed!
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[Cartoon Zeros] Chance wrote:
evans wrote:
stepping is pretty personal, some people like to be up on their toes. i believe that this allows you to move faster, but you can be more erratic and less accurate. if you have a song pretty nailed down, stomping(whole foot) is a bit slower, but it can keep you on pace better, not to mention, stomping provides better balance.

im speaking from experience, so you can take all of this at face value. i dont study this stuff or anything.


i think here is probably where you've been having your problem with the LoM stream at the end. If you've seen any perfectionsists and 1337 kids play, a lot of them are never on their toes when they play 10 footers. using your whole foot does not make you go slower, it actually makes everything easier. to effectively use your whole foot, you need to practice on using your heel on the down arrow instead of luggin your whole foot down there to hit it with your toe. there's four sensors to each arrow, one on each of the four sides. focus on only hitting the sensor that's closest to the middle of the pad. if you master this, then you end up needing to move your feet VERY little to hit the arrows you need. now back to LoM. if you can master the whole foot technique well, then it is much easier to get that stream and you'll find that you actually CAN move your feet faster this way, as apposed to the using your toes which forces you to swing your entire legs around like a mad man trying to hit those arrows that fast.

whole foot technique:
1.) reduces fatigue, therefore easier to play fast songs
2.) increases balance incredibly
3.) perfects your overall PA
4.) makes you look like a LEET. E7.gif

remember, your heels are your friend, use them all the time.


maybe i'm just weird, but for me the whole foot thing is tougher than toes, atleast on faster songs(like lom). but i see where youre coming from. i figured out how to do the stream, so now im trying to perfect the part leading into the first set of freezes (its like tripplet, single, air, repeat) those i just cant seem to read right like, ever. any tips would be greatly appreciated, because i think this question is a little more skill and technique than my last one.
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Now, I'm 13 and am lucky if I can even get a c or d on standard. You know why? Because, I've had leg weak ankles and a thigh problem since I was born. On top of that, I'm flat-footed so my feet hurt very easily. You think I'd have any chance of getting a half-way decent mark on either heavy or standard?
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i think i may have something to add to general improvement. i did this, and i got quite a bit better.

go out to a sporting goods store, shell out $15 and get a good pair of some semi soft ankle weights, 2.5 lbs. per did the trick for me, but their labeled by the weight of both(so the box i got it in said 5lbs.). ive been wearing some when i play, just to warm up and what not and it helps tremendously, especially after you get the hang of the weights and you stop noticing them. the key is getting some that arent too heavy, and some that fit well and are snug(you DO NOT want them slipping around on you, that creates nasty painful blisters). also, this is more preference but, i wear long pants usually and i wear mine underneath, so theyre pretty sleek and cover more of my leg instead of bulging out(i wear pretty narrow legged jeans). i can wear mine out in public (school and stuff) and not look like a moron.

this is just a thought for anyone who really wants to improve speed and dexterity(thats mostly what its for, too light for much else.).
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For those Foot-Fairies (Toe Steppers) out there don't fret... I've been a Fairie since day one..... My friends have tried to correct me over and over... But actually over time My friends and i have come to realize that the "Foot Fairie" method is acutally the path of least resistance. Basicaly its the most efficient technique with the least painful results on your ankles/feet. thumb.gif

To sum this up from my own personal experience the whole foot technique is really detrimental to your feet/ankles and to top it all of its in my oppinion (sloppy looking) nono.gif

I don't mean to bash the whole footers out there im simply lettin the young'ins know my oppinion E4.gif
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Is it ever okay to move one foot twice in a row asides from when there are two arrows in a row E19.gif
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jedo wrote:
Is it ever okay to move one foot twice in a row asides from when there are two arrows in a row E19.gif


If you're learning a new song, sometimes it's a good idea to keep your left foot on the left button. But usually, you shouldn't have to doublestep, because you'll eventually get back to facing forward again.

I'm a Foot-Fairy too, and proud of it!
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Does anyone have any tips for stealthing? Any good way to learn the steps, or do I just have to stare at a stepchart for hours?
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