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My home built metal DDR pad (Part IV)
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MikeMacD
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2740. PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes it did! Where do I solder my ground wire to?
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2741. PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 2:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Multisystem ddr pad? Reply with quote

DiddyWolf wrote:
Has anyone built a multi system (PC, PS, and xbox) metal ddr pad? I've been thinking about how it could be done properly. Would need a controler for all 3 systems, but how to connect the one set of arrows to all three controlers with out conflict is the question. I'm just curious to see if it's been done, else maybe i'll be the first.

--DiddyWolf



If the pads are not plugged at the same time you don't have to do anything special.
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2742. PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

any of the common points for the controller grounds (make sure you know what the ground for the controller is and what the hots are) just don't burn up your chip (too much heat will burn up a chip)
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2743. PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can solder the ground at the red dot. You only need ONE ground wire. Just scrape the surface until you see the copper and solder over there.

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I'm curious, how did everyone manage to get their boards soldered? I think I'm missing something, but I can't hold 4 things at once. (pcb, wire, solder and iron)
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2745. PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have finally decided to build my own pads(riptide design) and was wondering if there were any really good instructions out there on how to build a trick bar( I just cant get past the ending of paronoia survivor without it frust.gif )out there. Could you guys point me to a site where i could find these instructions? Thanx!
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2746. PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, I understand I solder the ground wiere where you put the red dot, but where do I solder the up, down. left, right?

Like this?

[IMG]http://img96.exs.cx/img96/872/P1010020-1.jpg[/IMG]

Or, do I put them on only one half of each circle, and if so, which one?

[IMG]http://img96.exs.cx/img96/4576/P1010020-2.jpg[/IMG]

Do you have MSN or AIM so we can talk more easily on there? Thanks.
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2747. PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have uploaded the same picture with different names.


You have to solder on the yellow part. You can see that it's the oposite side of the one touching the red dot (ground).

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Ok...so I was considering building my own pad...and today in my physics class, i was talking to the kid who is leader of robotics club at my school....he said they have some 25000 dollars or so in funding and at the moment, they don't have any big projects...so i asked if i could get some help with building a pad....he said that if i go next week and ask everyone if they'd help, there is a good chance that they'll pay for a lot of the stuff...he actually mentioned that they have lots of lexan in their "scrap bin"....i was ecstatic.....just thought i would share my happy moment for everyone else's enjoyment
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Thank you so much Deadsunrise. I know what to do now, but I just have to questions.

1. Why on those sides?

2. How do you know it's those sides?

Thanks.
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Is there any way to make the homemade pads any more like the arcade pads? Any ideas for alternatives to the wood support system? What do the arcade pads use?
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Bretzel, you couldn't make it any better than the arcade pads. It's already better. Trust me. I have the finished product, and it's amazing. You'll despise the arcade compared to yours. The number one thing about it is your metal pad will be shinier because it won't be abused as much.
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2752. PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MikeMacD wrote:
1. Why on those sides?

2. How do you know it's those sides?

Thanks.


1. the d-pad is set up so that it has five leads to it (usually)
one for each of the four directions, and a main ground.
the main ground is usually common, so each button bridges the gap between the individual lead wires to the main ground when you press it. the controller chip senses which individual lead wire is routing a circuit, and registers a button press.

2. when you look at the circuitry of the d-pad, you can see that there are two leads under each button. four of these leads, one from each button, are connected together. if you follow the wire from one of the leads, and get to another button, thats the ground circuit. if you get back to the chip, thats probably the lead, which you want to solder one side of your arrow to. the other sides of your arrows can be grouped together and soldered to the ground that you figured out.

if you're lucky, the four grounds from the buttons form a big blob of copper in the middle of the d-pad, and you can easily tell the leads from the ground.
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2753. PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

p.s. the arcade pads are made of aluminum and steel. and lexan. and stickers.

very heavy, very hard to replicate without machining equipment and autocad. and lots of money. E1.gif
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2754. PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think...we need a super genius electrician to somehow create a real arcade pad compatible with a ps1/ps2. laugh.gif I wonder how many people would pay for it.
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2755. PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the electrical stuff isn't hard, its the expence the platform would be thats the kicker (and shipping costs for it) just the stainless steel per corner (1/4 inch stainless, about a foot square) costs about $70 PER SQUARE
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I'm sure I could design the system to be an exact copy, but it would weigh the right weight, and cost about the same as buying yourself a machine ^^
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2756. PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know if this has been asked, but if it has, I'm sorry, I don't want to look through a 138 page topic....

How would you go about using an Xbox controller instead of a PSX?
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*faceplant* how about reading the last page or two?
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Every other person that has posted here in the last few days has asked that same thing practically. I think it's time for Posting And You.

And for the record, I've read through 70 pages of this thread.
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Okay, so I'll shell out 20-30 bucks for a madcatz http://www.madcatz.com/MadCatz/product_details.jsp?product_id=6040 universal pad, right? And then I'll use Toolookah's tutorial @ http://www.tolookah.net/DDR/ to wire my pad up to the madcatz control box. But, if I want two pads like so: http://server5.uploadit.org/files/Ulala321-twopads.jpg I'm going to have to shell out another 20-30 bucks for another mad catz pad and wire it just as I did the first? Also, will I want to put the circuit board(s) into a control box, or does it matter? Thanks guys. E1.gif
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