My home built metal DDR pad (Part IV)

Recycled · Basic Member Joined: 19 Jan 2004 Location: Flagstaff, AZ

I think Ter's design looks like it is more solid. Because it does not have the rails, the panels are actually resting on a solid base, instead of being supported only at the sides and thereby allowing for warp when the center is stepped upon. This is why the cobalt flux feels more solid than the redoctane metal pad... It has a solid base underneath it, permitting practically zero distortion and a solid feel. I want to build this pad. :-)

HitokiriX · Trick Member Joined: 27 Mar 2004 Location: Berwyn, PA

_ter · Trick Member Joined: 10 Sep 2002 Location: Seattle, WA

Phi Luvs Pie · Trick Member Joined: 03 Oct 2004 Location: Houston, Texas

Roughly how much would it cost me to build one of these babies? And how hard would the wiring be to do on the XBOX controller? Thanks!

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ledline · Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 11:02 am Post subject:

I think around $135 (well that was just the estimate)
but somewhere around that area.
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HitokiriX · Trick Member Joined: 27 Mar 2004 Location: Berwyn, PA

i think it costs about 100-110 for ter's cuz of the lack of 2 by 4's and other stuff that's not in his pad but i think mostly the 2 by 4's. then again someone might want to build start and select buttons...that would up your price like 30 bucks for plexiglass and all.

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oh can anyone tell me for sure if pressing and holding the start button cancels an action in ddr max, max2, and extreme? also any other select and start button options would be helpful for me to know. i don't have max, max2, or extreme cuz i didn't have enough cash for a ps2 after i bought my metal CG pad (crappy....sooooo crappy....) so i got a ps1 instead with konamix. not so bad...but i know they changed stuff in max, max2, and extreme compared to konamix so any help with start and select buttons would be extremely helpful. x, o, triangle, and square button features would be great help as well ^^

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ledline · Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 3:27 pm Post subject:

I cannot find the brackets anywhere.
can someone tell how to build it without the brackets

PM it to me
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Heffenfeffer · Trick Member Joined: 22 Apr 2002 Location: Las Cruces, NM

Aaak, last night I lost another controller to this stupid pad. This time, I decided to get a Dual Shock - I disconnected all the unnecessary stuff (like the vibrators, L&R buttons), soldered the wires to each point - but once again, it worked fine for a few minutes, then the buttons started behaving intermittently, and then I got nothing.

What do I need to do to solve this problem? It's getting quite frustrating! Is it because I play on carpet? Is there a controller that can take this much static?

Thanks,
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Weston · Trick Member Joined: 17 Feb 2003 Location: Minnesota

Static buildup causes a powerful charage to be sent to the controller, so I wonder if using resistors would work? I remember someone suggesting that at one time. You'd only need 4 if you have 8 wires going to the controller in your design. You'd have to figure out the electric current in the controller, and find an appropriate resistor.
Is there anyone that knows a lot about electronics that could say if this is a good or bad idea?

EDIT: Err... maybe more than 4. I forgot that the shock can travel through any of the wires.

Ulala321 · Trick Member Joined: 28 Sep 2004

Hmm, I'm going to make my first attempt at the wiring this weekend, and I may give your idea a try. I'll consult with an electrician friend of mine and let you guys know.

ch · Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 11:03 am Post subject:

i think the best solution to a static problem would be to ground all the wired to an electrical wall socket. Add one wire to each return wire from your arrows(or one on the ground of the controller) and wire it into the ground of an old extendion cord. Put wire nuts on the ends of the other two wire so you dont get a short!

plug this into a grounded electrical socket in your house and that should be it. as long as the socket is actually grounded and not just a front for an old two-wire house wiring. Get a tester or an electrician to tell you if the socket is grounded or not, but they should be on most newer houses.

btw, noone got back to me about my back bar yet! any hints?

EDIT: sorry to rip on you weston, but i dont think resistors would help. then again, idk

tolookah · Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 11:16 am Post subject:

depending on the controller, a large resistor may help (i mean like 1meg ohm+) the official sony controller has a 220k resistor, other options are a resistor and a 5-6 volt Zener diode to pretty much discharge when it gets above 5-6 volts

I use the official sony one, and it works fine ^^
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ch · Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 3:24 pm Post subject:

there is a ground wire that goes through the controller cabe to the playstation, but of course, the playstation has no ground either

if you're curious, looking into the end of the controller cable,
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./o | data
| o | command
| o | +7.5v
|---|
| o | ground
| o | VCC
| o | ATT
|---|
| o | CLK
| o | (not used)
.\o | ACK
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moonmen0 · Trick Member Joined: 08 Jul 2004

as for the static buildup....i havent yet built my pad, but i have asked my dad who is an electrician and he said that it sounded like a good idea. I plan to add a wire somewhere around where the arrows contact on all four, and have that wire connect to the case for my computer, the case is metal and i grounded, that shoudl eliminate the problem if it is charge buildup from the arrows.
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