DDR Megamix/King/"Extreme Plus" Discussion Thread

Pokemon Is Rad · Trick Member Joined: 08 Jun 2004 Location: Reading, PA

Yeah so my arcade has an Extreme Plus, and I gave the guy the code that unlocks items 1-30, and nothing happened. So like, do the Extreme codes in the Announcement work for Extreme Plus? Or do you have to put in all of the codes? I have no idea how that stuff works. Help would rock cuz having only the default songs sucks.

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Mart · Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 11:44 am Post subject:

Pokemon Is Rad · Trick Member Joined: 08 Jun 2004 Location: Reading, PA

zolthorg · Basic Member Joined: 09 Sep 2004

for some reason i don't like extreme plus as a name...

megamixtreme
haha!

anyways it's a bit wierd as a mix... it appears to have everything extreme has.. so that's good...

is it actually any better in any possible way?
how are they selling this crap to arcade owners?

note:
a bunch of the graphics are changed FROM extreme, you can tell from the timer in the corner during song selection.. it's still pretty green.. but this ugly red/blue junk

Cutriss · Staff Member Joined: 24 Jan 2002

Okay, let's have a quick lesson about overclocking, shall we?

Overclocking is what's used to denote the practice of cranking up the clock speed beyond what the hardware is spec'ed to handle.

Now, let's say you have a P2-450 but you don't have a motherboard capable of running a 100MHz system bus. You can't get 450 from a 66MHz system bus, so the best you can do is 66MHz * 6.5 multiplier = 433.

But you still want that last little bit of performance. Let's say you have one of those fancy Asus boards that have a whole bunch of different bus speeds in little increments. If you set your board speed to 69MHz, you'll effectively get your 450MHz processor to run at capacity, but this will still be referred to by some people as "overclocking". You may not be overclocking the CPU, but the peripherals on the system bus are running at a slightly faster clock rate.

Anyhow, the point of this is that it's a complete assumption on *everyone's* part that Extreme Plus causes any long-term damage to the hardware. You don't know what the hardware is spec'ed to handle, so these "overclocks" could well be within the performance specifications of the System573 hardware.
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Cutriss · Staff Member Joined: 24 Jan 2002

Well, all these symptoms (heat damage, electromigration) are evidence of a hardware overclock. This hack uses a software overclock, since the upgrade doesn't involve any modification to the hardware. If the hardware is already tied to a clock generator...dot dot dot...

Unless someone is suggesting that the hardware has known liabilities, and part of DDR's code issues regular NOOPs to the CPU to cool it down...

No...I suspect they just found an internal timer that's used to govern the entire game and worked in a function to change its increment value on demand.

There's an easy way to test this. Hook up a few thermisters to whatever chips have heat sinks, sample some temperature readings during normal play, and then do the same after installing/using Extreme Plus.

EDIT: Here's a thought. Set the game speed to boosted, and then turn the machine off. Is the speed boosted again when the machine is powered on? If not, then the clock timer is almost certainly simply run out of RAM, and thus easily changed and doesn't affect the speed of the hardware.
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Pokemon Is Rad · Trick Member Joined: 08 Jun 2004 Location: Reading, PA

Tomo_kun · Trick Member Joined: 26 Oct 2003 Location: SE-WI.

Now if you where to try re-instaling DDRExtreme after having the machine on + 20% (before re installing), would it stay that way in DDR extreme?
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josh loves macho gang · Trick Member Joined: 18 Sep 2004 Location: w00dbridge

in that set or first screens do you know where they got that token holder w/ the numbers? thats awesome

Mart · Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 3:31 am Post subject:

Pokemon Is Rad · Trick Member Joined: 08 Jun 2004 Location: Reading, PA

Can you "upgrade" (or whatever you want to call it) a Extreme Plus to a regular Extreme?

And does anyone know where I can get the manual for Extreme Plus? The arcade owner didn't get it when he bought the machine.
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SPYRE · Basic Member Joined: 23 Sep 2004

I don't know if this is the right section to put this in, and I apologize if it has already been covered but...

Our arcade in Charleston, SC has the DDRMegamix. I wanted to update it in the machine location but it doesn't give an option to select megamix.
So I just put in DDR extreme. It has pretty much everything extreme has, except for the backgrounds and "In the Navy".

So I hope someone doesn't get mad when they come to our arcade and don't find "In the Navy" among all the other songs.

Mart · Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 1:37 am Post subject:

Jebus · Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 8:43 am Post subject:

SPYRE · Basic Member Joined: 23 Sep 2004

I did play a version of Extreme that had "In the Navy" on it.

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Pokemon Is Rad · Trick Member Joined: 08 Jun 2004 Location: Reading, PA

OK so I guess we finally have this Extreme Plus figured out. It always got stuck on that 20% music speed bullshiz and it was really annoying. So one day it was stuck on that crap, and I was like "What if I do this?" and I picked Beginner mode. BAM! There was the option to put it back on Normal speed. We never discovered that before because the few people that do play DDR around here play on Heavy, and if you pick Heavy it stays on whatever speed thing it's already on and doesn't give you the option to change it. Yey for me. Long story in a nutshell, dumb people shouldn't be allowed to take drinks into the arcade because they always seem to spill on the pads.

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