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My home built metal DDR pad (Part IV)
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2460. PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WOOT WOOT! GREAT WOLF LODGE! They fixed the pads themselves..cant remember what they used though..i was check and tell everyone
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WOOT WOOT! GREAT WOLF LODGE! They fixed the pads themselves..cant remember what they used though..i was check and tell everyone
A wisconsin resort has to do with home made metal pads how?
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It is in KC and they replaced the arrow with some home depot stuff and it is working...
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Hey everyone....I'm new to this whole building pads thing. Used to think it was gonna take me a whole lotta time that i didn't have....and i'm right!! WOOT for me!!!! happy.gif anyway......I'd like to build me an arcade style pad with one exception: I want to have the select buttons on. u know....the top left and top right buttons....usually green.....

so how would i wire that in? if this is a retarded question flame me plz. I learn from my mistakes. screaming helps too happy.gif;
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I haven't started to make my own pad yet, but I'm deffinitely considering it. Before I do that, though, I need to make sure that I know how to do it completely so that I don't get stuck in the middle, and to do that I'm hoping to get a few questions answered. happy.gif

1. Looking at the pictures for the final pad, it looks as if you put screws into the top of the corner braces and into the arrow. The only effect that I can think of to doing this is that the arrow must bend in the middle when you hit it, and from what I remember, I believe that the arrows in the arcades just go down and come back up. Is there a way to do this, like by just not putting the screws in the top, in which case I can see the unfastened arrows coming out the side of the pad if not covered by a metal (or at least, metal looking) bar around the pad, or am I thinking too much about this? o_o;

2. I was looking through the directions for the homepad and I noticed that it called for MDF fiberboard or some kind of wood material, but it wasn't really clear on how long the rails under the pad should be or how many screws we should put in (or whether this was up to us, or.. wait, should we just screw the corner screws through into the rails? that might answer my next question..). Should the rails extend from one side to the other, leave a couple inches from the edges, or what? I can see that extended ones to both sides give more support, but smaller ones leave room to weave wiring, which also wasn't fully explained in the sense that it doesn't say where the wires go between the soldered pad and the controller. Maybe I need to be working on the pad to figure out some of these questions, lol.

3. This is probably my stupidest question, but when screwing in the corner braces, the screws look like they might come dangerously close to hitting the screws placed in the corners of the 5 neutral squares. Should I just factor this in when screwing them in? :o

4. Bare with me now. I'm an idiot.. but what do you mean when you say to make a 1/2" gap in the weatherstripping? In the middle of the strip so that it looks someting like this?: | [] | ..the lines on the outside being the strip, and the brakets being the gap? Please explain.

I really appreciate answering any question you can, and if I remember anything else, I'll say so.
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HitokiriX wrote:
Hey everyone....I'm new to this whole building pads thing. Used to think it was gonna take me a whole lotta time that i didn't have....and i'm right!! WOOT for me!!!! happy.gif anyway......I'd like to build me an arcade style pad with one exception: I want to have the select buttons on. u know....the top left and top right buttons....usually green.....

so how would i wire that in? if this is a retarded question flame me plz. I learn from my mistakes. screaming helps too happy.gif;


Just add 2 more groundwires, and then you solder a select and start to each of the things. Just basically mimic what you do with the up left right and down arrows. It's ezier just to put in a button like riptide does. IMO its better than spending another $20 on arrows.
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HitokiriX wrote:
Hey everyone....I'm new to this whole building pads thing. Used to think it was gonna take me a whole lotta time that i didn't have....and i'm right!! WOOT for me!!!! happy.gif anyway......I'd like to build me an arcade style pad with one exception: I want to have the select buttons on. u know....the top left and top right buttons....usually green.....

so how would i wire that in? if this is a retarded question flame me plz. I learn from my mistakes. screaming helps too happy.gif;


Just add 2 more groundwires, and then you solder a select and start to each of the things. Just basically mimic what you do with the up left right and down arrows. It's ezier just to put in a button like riptide does. IMO its better than spending another $20 on arrows.


Hey!!!!! it's you!!!! WHEE!!!! yeah i guess ur right about the arrows. it just seems like a big pain to crouch up and down everytime you need to press select or start. 20 bucks is worth it for select and start arrows i think.

A question i got about doing this is if you add the start and select arrows will it still allow you to get arrows that only go up and down instead of bend like in regular pads? i'm thinkin the metal frame used when building the pad has something to do with allowing the arrow panels to shift up and down. i think i'm gonna go read some more about the building instruction stuff. b back with some more questions later. cya
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just step on them. put them like 5 inches away from eachother, and you can just lightly step on them. Don't worry that's the lazy alternative too having to crouch and press it with a finger ^^
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one question here: what does allow the arrow panels of the arcade pad to only go up and down instead of bending?
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here's a suggestion. Follow Riptide's design. It goes up and down and doesn't bend. I don't think the arcade really goes up and down. It's more of a pressure sensor.
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Paranoia Survivor wrote:
here's a suggestion. Follow Riptide's design. It goes up and down and doesn't bend. I don't think the arcade really goes up and down. It's more of a pressure sensor.

The arcade pads do have some vertical movement. It's just a very small amount... a mm or so.

The standard switches used in them are a semi-conductive rubber sleeve with wires running down the center. When a step is made, the panels press on that sleeve and connect the two wires.

There are replacement switches which work differently... they have similar rubber sleves, but inside are membrane switches which are basically a couple layers of plastic with two wires running down it. There are also semi-conductive tabs that sit over those wires. They don't conduct across until a pressure is applied.
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Urgent Question: Below each of the 5 panels (not arrows) was I supposed to lay to MDF rails flat against the bottom or on the narrow edge? The instructions never explain, and on the arrows it shows flat. But then I looked closely at the picture and the temporary rails at all four directions of the pad are shown on the narrow edge...

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Urgent Question: Below each of the 5 panels (not arrows) was I supposed to lay to MDF rails flat against the bottom or on the narrow edge? The instructions never explain, and on the arrows it shows flat. But then I looked closely at the picture and the temporary rails at all four directions of the pad are shown on the narrow edge...

Fast reply please... frown.gif


When I built ddrhomepad's design, I put them flat. As long as you do it the same way, consistently for the whole pad, you should be fine.
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You positive, because the arrows show them flat, but the panels don't. So it seems as though the panels have to compensate for all the shiznit inbetween the arrow...
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Sane wrote:
You positive, because the arrows show them flat, but the panels don't. So it seems as though the panels have to compensate for all the shiznit inbetween the arrow...


Well, that's how I built my ddrhomepad, and it did ok. If you want a second opinion or someone to concurr, you'll have to wait a little longer, but I'm sure that others will reply in time and either tell me I'm wrong or back me up. E13.gif
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Okay, I'll hope you're right. But this better not screw me over in the end...

But what did you to for the temporary rails on the NSWE sides of the pad...if you lay them flat they intrude a bit on the arrows...wouldn't they?
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Sane wrote:
Okay, I'll hope you're right. But this better not screw me over in the end...

But what did you to for the temporary rails on the NSWE sides of the pad...if you lay them flat they intrude a bit on the arrows...wouldn't they?


I'm not sure which temporary rails you're talking about...
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The one's you use around the perimeter on the NSEW sides of the pad.

Edit: This sucks...I have better things to do then wait. Bye.... E2.gif
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if i didnt want to use the corner brackets, what would i use to hold the nonbutton pieces together?
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If i use 3/8" normal glass (I can get it for free) for the arrows, do you think it will break?
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