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para_afro
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540. PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yesteday i just beatin survior maxx on standard and i have never beatin it untill now. and did u know that on ddr extreme a flashing 10 footer is a 11-15 footer. and i know that survior maxx on heavy is 12 and challange its a 15 footer
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541. PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

umm no its a 10 if it was a 12 konami would make it a 12, and everyone would know about it. if you want to know what a real 12 is or an 11 go get some stepmania files. 11+ is nearly impossible to do with feet
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542. PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm still stuck on 5-7 footers because some songs just have sequences that I'm not used to. Will playing over and over again help me because it doesn't seem like it would. I always try not to double step, but it throws me off. I also can't recognize patterns where I need to do crossover or some irregular step.

For example, let's say my right foot is on up, and my left foot on down. This sequence comes:

R L D R L D

Where the Left arrows are 8th notes. I figured that I would have to hit right arrow with left foot, left arrow with right, and down arrow with left foot. Then the rest is right left down.
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543. PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am also having trouble with songs like that. 6 and 7 footers. I am currently having the most problems with Afronova on standard (7 footer) I can get the begining down and the jump sequence. (RL,RD,RL,LD,RL,UD) But the next part makes me fail. with the 8th note steps mixed with quarter note steps. It's so friggin' hard. Can anyone gimme a tip on passing this and the end with the 8th notes? E4.gif
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544. PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AsianSensation wrote:
For example, let's say my right foot is on up, and my left foot on down. This sequence comes:

R L D R L D

Where the Left arrows are 8th notes. I figured that I would have to hit right arrow with left foot, left arrow with right, and down arrow with left foot. Then the rest is right left down.


Yes, to avoid double-stepping, that's what you'd do... but since only the L's are 8th notes, you could start the sequence on your right foot and comfortably double-step the D-R, which might be easier than doing those turns.
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545. PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BizarreDDR wrote:
I am also having trouble with songs like that. 6 and 7 footers. I am currently having the most problems with Afronova on standard (7 footer) I can get the begining down and the jump sequence. (RL,RD,RL,LD,RL,UD) But the next part makes me fail. with the 8th note steps mixed with quarter note steps. It's so friggin' hard. Can anyone gimme a tip on passing this and the end with the 8th notes? E4.gif


Simple: learn to do crossovers. In the first section with the 8th notes, keep your right foot anchored on the bottom arrow. On the first set of three, crossover... on the next set of three, reverse those steps... on the final set of three, crossover again. The remaining sets of 8th notes don't require any crossovers or doublesteps. For that final run at the end, just turn left and crossover in the opposite direction (keep your left foot on the down arrow, and use your right foot to hit the left arrow)
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546. PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

crossing over isn't always as accurate as double stepping. a lot of PA'ers i know double step to maximize their chances of getting the perfect (and the step), and trust me; if you can do well with double stepping no one should care (for awhile i used to be embarrassed that i couldn't cross over, and then i learned how, and now that im going for PA [perfect attack if you didn't know] i usually don't)
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547. PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, but we're not talking about PA... we're talking about someone who's failing the song because of those sections.
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548. PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

double stepping really isn't that bad?
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549. PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well if you have some friends like i do who only try to get you to cross over you might want to try to learn (just so you don't look like a noob to some people) but once you get good enough so that you're going for really good scores, i don't see any problem with double stepping if you can do it well
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550. PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm just approaching the level of being able to PA pretty well, and I think that double stepping is ok, as long as you know when and when not to do it. On something like R&P, or Saints go marching in, or can't stop fallin in love speed mix, I almost never double step, but there are a few songs where double stepping can be beneficial such as healing vision angelic mix, or a few parts of sakura. the thing I've found is that if your going to double step, the best way to do it is not bring your feet off the pad much. never actually hit two steps in a row with the same foot by lifting the foot between the steps, figure out how to slide it across the pad.
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551. PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm just approaching the level of being able to PA pretty well, and I think that double stepping is ok, as long as you know when and when not to do it. On something like R&P, or Saints go marching in, or can't stop fallin in love speed mix, I almost never double step, but there are a few songs where double stepping can be beneficial such as healing vision angelic mix, or a few parts of sakura. the thing I've found is that if your going to double step, the best way to do it is not bring your feet off the pad much. never actually hit two steps in a row with the same foot by lifting the foot between the steps, figure out how to slide it across the pad.
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552. PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i was feeling particularly cocky the other day so i did exotic ethnic without crossing (at all no part of the song) on heavy and i managed to get an aa E10.gif so its very possible to be a good double stepper
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553. PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 7:42 pm    Post subject: Soft pad -> Arcade Reply with quote

I'm sort of a newbie here.. I've had a soft pad since late March early June, and I've been playing with that until now. I can do most heavy songs... (I can pass csfilsm and r&p on heavy with it) but for some reason, I absolutely suck in the arcade.

My pad has the arrows elevated off the pad instead of lower, and thats probably the problem. I find myself stepping on the areas just behind left and right, and since I do that my feet are slightly above the arrow and not actually on them... I end up getting almost all greats instead of perfects. After playing in the arcade for the first time since I got my mat, I was getting almost 200 greats compared to only 50 or so perfects, but by the end of the night I had around 100 of each.

Can anyone offer any advice about nailing perfects in the arcade? Or should I just keep throwing tokens in the machine until I can do it? =/

By the way, I use my soft pad for stepmania on my PC, I dont play any of the console versions.
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554. PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

not sure there's a trick really...sometimes I feel like I have to step a super small amount late to get a perfect....
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555. PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PxDnAkumA wrote:
not sure there's a trick really...sometimes I feel like I have to step a super small amount late to get a perfect....


Yeah, my friend mentioned that I was hitting them a little late and getting greats, but then I started hitting them too early... I feel like I'm right on the beat, but I guess I have to do a small adjustment.

I often find myself losing track of where the arrows are, and I step on the higher metal instead of the arrow, although most of my foot is over the arrow, I'm on the metal instead of arrow. =/
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556. PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Um... question...

HOW THE F*CK DO YOU DO THE right.gif down.gif left.gif up.gif right.gif down.gif right.gif crossover on HV:AM!!??
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557. PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats not a crossover, that's a spin, but i usually just double step, double stepping brings me from a C to a B on HVAM on heavy, and anyways, it's hard to spin that quickly biggrin.gif as u know it's like a 195 bpm song E13.gif
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558. PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi! Does anyone have tips for weird and crazy jumps? I can barely pass Afronova on Light because of those odd jumps all over the place. And sometimes I'll flub a song because of unexpected jumps...

I try to play on Standard, and can pass a fair amount of songs, but still having the problem with the jumps. 8th beats and triplets I'm getting very good at! E7.gif
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559. PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

opps wrong user
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