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Didjivibes
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2240.  Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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Nice looking pad Tyris. Reminds me of a MyMyBox pad from the braces you used. Any chance you have pics of the inside of the pad you would upload? I'm very curious how you did your contacts and wiring under the panels. Also, did you choose to use wood for the arrow panels instead of using plexi w/ graphics? Thanks.
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superduperblake
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| 2241. Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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As for lighting up the pad (When someone hits the arrows) anyone used bright LED's yet? I saw some people using actual light bulbs, but I am using DDRHomepads design and it is too think so I thought LED's would work nicely, anyone have thoughts on this?
Also I got some regular foam weather stripping instead of the 'high desity' *Hears Oohs and Aahs*, Is there really a huge difference?
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tolookah
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| 2242. Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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| superduperblake wrote: | | As for lighting up the pad (When someone hits the arrows) anyone used bright LED's yet? I saw some people using actual light bulbs, but I am using DDRHomepads design and it is too think so I thought LED's would work nicely, anyone have thoughts on this? |
give me less than a week for a reply on the LEDs, i have them, and have the pad materials, but its not built yet... again, external power is needed to power the lights.
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superduperblake
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| 2243. Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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| tolookah wrote: | | superduperblake wrote: | | As for lighting up the pad (When someone hits the arrows) anyone used bright LED's yet? I saw some people using actual light bulbs, but I am using DDRHomepads design and it is too think so I thought LED's would work nicely, anyone have thoughts on this? |
give me less than a week for a reply on the LEDs, i have them, and have the pad materials, but its not built yet... again, external power is needed to power the lights. |
Are you sure about that? I will be using mine with my xbox and I know with an Xbox controller you can mod it with many LED's, so are you <i>positive</i> there would need to be an external power source? |
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Nephus
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| 2244. Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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I've actually seen aftermarket xbox controllers with EL wire ran around the inside of it. That stuff has a fairly low power drain... hmm.. I think I just got an idea  |
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tolookah
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| 2245. Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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ok, ill restate the external power supply statement...
You need an external power supply if you are connecting to a playstation, because they have a 750mA fuse to the whole controller bus, i can't speak for the Xbox though, i would assume USB spec (which i havent read yet)
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Tyris
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| 2246. Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2004 6:55 am Post subject: |
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| Didjivibes wrote: | | Nice looking pad Tyris. Reminds me of a MyMyBox pad from the braces you used. Any chance you have pics of the inside of the pad you would upload? I'm very curious how you did your contacts and wiring under the panels. Also, did you choose to use wood for the arrow panels instead of using plexi w/ graphics? Thanks. |
I'd take some internal pics... unfortunately I dont intend to open it up anytime soon (opening it is a major hassle which is why i moddified it so that to repair the buttons.... I dont -have- to open it =D)
basically... internally, its exactly the same as DDR HP's (a few minor changes with the buttons... like rubber underneath them as well for extra bounce...), except with all the extra 'air' taken out (the bits of wood holding it up are gone... which also meant I had to dig 'rivets' into the wood for the wires to run).
So yeah, the buttons are just the DDRHP design... altho as you noticed, with only wood and no graphics...
my first pads were exactly the same as DDRHP's...
the 3rd pad (this one), intitially had:
plexiglass (perspex)
wood
copper
weather stripping
copper
wood
as its make up... but since I replace the brackets.. the plexiglass bit didnt quite fit properly  (wasnt quite enough space).
so now its:
wood
copper
weather stripping + rubber (actually some rubber weather stripping)
copper
wood
rubber
as its makeup... which seems to work perfectly... I'm also going to use contact paper to put images onto the top piece of wood for each button, essentially finishing it 
For the guys asking about LED lighting...
a PS controller should be able to draw enough power to light them up, depending on how many you use, and how you want them to work (for individual buttons presses etc), and the wiring for them shouldnt be too hard... if you use to many tho (like a lot too many) you may lose so much power to them that the sensitivity of your buttons could drop (I think.. coz the electricity would be being used by the lights, and hence not completing the circuit is strongly).
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Andreq
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| 2247. Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2004 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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hey !....long time since last post here!
anyway. I just wanted to show my "old" (1yrs 5month) old pad with light ! (yeahhhllll !)
here are the pics :
for the wiring of the light I use an external 12v power supply + car light bulb.
to trigger the light i use relays driven by 2 transistor.
it look like this :
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+5v +5v
R1 |
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in -< relay X_____12v bulbs____+12v
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GND
-< = npn transistor
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the relay are always in "high" so the bulbs is conected so it doesnt light when relay is "high". When the button is triggered (from "in") the relay is now low (because of R1 and the 2nd transistor).
I place this little electronics in serial from ground to button wire like this :
power supply & psx gnd----light electronic----arrow button ----- psx pad btn
anyway !... I just wanted to show you my work on DDR homepads. I used a riptide base.
if you need a better schematic just ask ill try to make one !
have a nice day !
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Nephus
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| 2248. Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2004 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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thanks, you saved me the trouble of digging up my old electronics books and trying to whip up a circuit myself.
Now that I've got some ideas for how to do this.. I just need the money to buy the materials. That should take... oh.. forever. |
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Blademaster
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| 2249. Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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| I desperatly need step by step instructions on how to build cromas pad, if anyone has them, please send me a copy or give me a link to it, you can email them to me at [email protected] |
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Blademaster
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| 2250. Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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| I desperatly need step by step instructions on how to build cromas pad, if anyone has them, please send me a copy or give me a link to it, you can email them to me at [email protected] |
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nerd of nerds
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| 2251. Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 8:50 pm Post subject: wiring lights... |
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hello...
i am building a couple of riptide ddr pads soon and was wondering if this would work for wiring the lights:
have the - of the light bulb 12v light bulb) connected to the non ground wire in the switch circuit, and the + connected to 12v+, so when the arrow is pressed the light is grounded and should light up...right? will this fry my controller at all? 
thanks!
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Amerk12
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| 2252. Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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I saw someone post this above, and I really need an answer on the subject too.
I can not find any of the high density, closed cell weatherstrip in any of the local Home Depot, Lowe's, etc. They all carry the same open cell regular stuff. Is it going to be a noticable difference between the two, or is it that necessary to have the high density stuff?
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tolookah
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| 2253. Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 7:05 pm Post subject: Re: wiring lights... |
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| nerd of nerds wrote: | hello...
i am building a couple of riptide ddr pads soon and was wondering if this would work for wiring the lights:
have the - of the light bulb 12v light bulb) connected to the non ground wire in the switch circuit, and the + connected to 12v+, so when the arrow is pressed the light is grounded and should light up...right? will this fry my controller at all?
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ok, do you want to attach the lightbulb to 12V on one side, and 5V on the other? (thats what the 'non ground' is for all intensive purposes.) so you will have a 7V drop across the lightbulb, the bulb, to give a what i would consider high estimate as 10ohms, which gives you 700mA running INTO your controller while the button is not pressed. the 'non ground' is a reference that plugs right into the chip of the controller, and shouldnt go above about 6 without cascading issues. so im gonna have to say no.
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nerd of nerds
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| 2254. Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 8:02 pm Post subject: Re: wiring lights... |
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| tolookah wrote: | | nerd of nerds wrote: | hello...
i am building a couple of riptide ddr pads soon and was wondering if this would work for wiring the lights:
have the - of the light bulb 12v light bulb) connected to the non ground wire in the switch circuit, and the + connected to 12v+, so when the arrow is pressed the light is grounded and should light up...right? will this fry my controller at all?
thanks! |
ok, do you want to attach the lightbulb to 12V on one side, and 5V on the other? (thats what the 'non ground' is for all intensive purposes.) so you will have a 7V drop across the lightbulb, the bulb, to give a what i would consider high estimate as 10ohms, which gives you 700mA running INTO your controller while the button is not pressed. the 'non ground' is a reference that plugs right into the chip of the controller, and shouldnt go above about 6 without cascading issues. so im gonna have to say no. |
soooo...this WOULDN'T be a good idea...or would some diodes fix this?
EDIT: OR, could i have it connected so that when the arrow is pressed they are both grounded, but when it isn't being pressed they (5v+ and light bulb) aren't connected...would that be okay?
i really should know this stuff...i have been working with electronics since i was six... 
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superduperblake
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| 2255. Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Tyris wrote: |
For the guys asking about LED lighting...
a PS controller should be able to draw enough power to light them up, depending on how many you use, and how you want them to work (for individual buttons presses etc), and the wiring for them shouldnt be too hard... if you use to many tho (like a lot too many) you may lose so much power to them that the sensitivity of your buttons could drop (I think.. coz the electricity would be being used by the lights, and hence not completing the circuit is strongly). |
I was going to use an xbox controller, do you think 6 LED's per arrow is too much? |
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willfor
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| 2256. Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 2:56 am Post subject: |
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| Amerk12 wrote: | I saw someone post this above, and I really need an answer on the subject too.
I can not find any of the high density, closed cell weatherstrip in any of the local Home Depot, Lowe's, etc. They all carry the same open cell regular stuff. Is it going to be a noticable difference between the two, or is it that necessary to have the high density stuff?
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Closed cell? I have the exact opposite problem, I've got some closed cell, but can't for the life of me find open cell weatherstripping. Is there some advantage to closed cell? |
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Tomo_kun
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| 2257. Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 6:44 am Post subject: |
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Look, if you *want* your buttons to light up (Same works with DDR pads as it does with Pop'N Music) You are going to need diodes to PREVENT your PS2 from exploding.
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jasonvorheez2000
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| 2258. Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 8:18 am Post subject: |
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i know im in the wrong thread and all but u guys seem very smart at ddr pads so do any of u know what could be wrong with my metal pad the up down and right arrow dont work only the diagnol arrows and the left arrow does do any of u know how to fix this problem if u dont then i guess ill spend a crapload of money sending it back i cost me like 400 bucks if u need to see what the pad looks like heres the link to the pic http://www.ddrgame.com/newarmepadv3.html
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nerd of nerds
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| 2259. Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 8:38 am Post subject: |
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| jasonvorheez2000 wrote: | | i know im in the wrong thread and all but u guys seem very smart at ddr pads so do any of u know what could be wrong with my metal pad the up down and right arrow dont work only the diagnol arrows and the left arrow does do any of u know how to fix this problem if u dont then i guess ill spend a crapload of money sending it back i cost me like 400 bucks if u need to see what the pad looks like heres the link to the pic http://www.ddrgame.com/newarmepadv3.html |
i think thats the same pad you can get at lik sang for $120...
but those MUST be modded to be any good...
just build a homepad...they rock...i've owned several and can say that they definetly improved my score with ddr each one i build is better than the last...
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