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1600. PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I played on a CF pad and don't think it's as good as thought. The main issue I had was that every button was all at the same height and I would have to look down once in awhile to make sure I was hitting the arrows.

The bottom of it is wood and it just may be a issue with it moving while I play. So I might just be stepping when the arrows use to be so I get a miss or boo.

I guess i'll try to find something to make it stationary and this problem may go away.

I don't think there will ever be a way to replicate the arcade experience perfectly...unless you buy yourself a machine that is. E4.gif

I prefer the arcade experience overall. From issues reguarding a bigger perfect window on home versions to moving pads, the arcade is the place for me.
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1601. PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There a way to replicate the arcade pads w/o buying arcade pads... homemade metal pads!

How bout some velcro to keep your pad stationary.
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1602. PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This stuff will keep all CFs stationary on any surface.

I've used it on carpeting on uneven floors, on gymnasium floors, and on concrete. The CF won't budge if you have a nonslip rug pad under it.
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1603. PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How would you guys rate the TX-2000 Metal pad? (Yes, I know, that bar is gonna break in like an hour upon using the pad). nerd.gif

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1604. PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

how long for CF arrival E2.gif I'm too impatient...
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match_head_ wrote:
I got two RO metal pads last week... Shipped out fast, recieved them in 4 days... total cost: $460.
I'd have to say that for $200 each, they suck. They take about 30 lbs to set off a sensor. The sensors are only about 4x6 inches, so you have to step directly in the middle of the sensor to get a response.
By far, the worst part part about them are the metal brackets. The brackets are made out of thin sheet metal, so they bend, and the edges are sharp. I was playing doubles and my shoe got caught on one of the brackets. I stumbled and twisted my ankle. Now my ankle hurts like a mother and makes a sickening popping noise whenever I move it.
I sent RO some angry E-mails on Friday and still have not gotten a response.
I also tried calling them, and left them a few voicemails, still no response.
Their online return authorization form doesn't work either.
Should I try to return the pads?
It looks like I'll have to pay for shipping... $80 and they also charge a 15% restocking fee... $60 and they won't refund the shipping... $60, so it will cost me $200 to get back my $400.
Or.... can I mod they somehow to make them more responsive, and get rid of those EVIL brackets?

By the way... RO pads do not feel like arcade pads. I bought them because they claimed that they were replicas of the arcade pads, but the buttons are not sunk like they are in the arcade. The surface is mostly flat except for the freakin' brackets and screws.

I say avoid RO metal pads because they suck and there is no customer service.


Following up on this, I sent RO a question just to ask them how their pads compare to CF. No response.

I sent the same/similar email to CF and got a response within a few hours. You can read it on my blog at ddrnewguy.blogspot.com.

So based on what I have read here, RO is unresponsive and CF is responsive. As the price of the product you purchase increases, you should value customer service more.
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RO pads are prolly goin to be cleaned a little after u get it. When you are taken the plastic off just leave the screws off and remove the panels. Make sure the metal unbderneath the arow is clean. Mine had ink like stuff on the arrows and I just cleaned it off with a sock and it worked ten times better then when I first tried it.
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1607. PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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RO pads are prolly goin to be cleaned a little after u get it. When you are taken the plastic off just leave the screws off and remove the panels. Make sure the metal unbderneath the arow is clean. Mine had ink like stuff on the arrows and I just cleaned it off with a sock and it worked ten times better then when I first tried it.


Interesting... I'll have to try that.
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1608. PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also the more you play on the RO's the more sensitive they get because the foam starts to wear off a little bit.
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Synpax wrote:
match_head_ wrote:
I got two RO metal pads last week... Shipped out fast, recieved them in 4 days... total cost: $460.
I'd have to say that for $200 each, they suck. They take about 30 lbs to set off a sensor. The sensors are only about 4x6 inches, so you have to step directly in the middle of the sensor to get a response.
By far, the worst part part about them are the metal brackets. The brackets are made out of thin sheet metal, so they bend, and the edges are sharp. I was playing doubles and my shoe got caught on one of the brackets. I stumbled and twisted my ankle. Now my ankle hurts like a mother and makes a sickening popping noise whenever I move it.
I sent RO some angry E-mails on Friday and still have not gotten a response.
I also tried calling them, and left them a few voicemails, still no response.
Their online return authorization form doesn't work either.
Should I try to return the pads?
It looks like I'll have to pay for shipping... $80 and they also charge a 15% restocking fee... $60 and they won't refund the shipping... $60, so it will cost me $200 to get back my $400.
Or.... can I mod they somehow to make them more responsive, and get rid of those EVIL brackets?

By the way... RO pads do not feel like arcade pads. I bought them because they claimed that they were replicas of the arcade pads, but the buttons are not sunk like they are in the arcade. The surface is mostly flat except for the freakin' brackets and screws.

I say avoid RO metal pads because they suck and there is no customer service.


Following up on this, I sent RO a question just to ask them how their pads compare to CF. No response.

I sent the same/similar email to CF and got a response within a few hours. You can read it on my blog at ddrnewguy.blogspot.com.

So based on what I have read here, RO is unresponsive and CF is responsive. As the price of the product you purchase increases, you should value customer service more.


The CF pad is obviously better than the RO pad (they're $100 more) so why does it suprise you that RO wouldn't respond to your query while CF responds with a nice marketing jingle? It's not good business to say that another product is better than yours, but it is good busniess to do the opposite.
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1610. PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The CF pad is obviously better than the RO pad (they're $100 more) so why does it suprise you that RO wouldn't respond to your query while CF responds with a nice marketing jingle? It's not good business to say that another product is better than yours, but it is good busniess to do the opposite.


Whoa, they have a jingle? That'd be fun to hear. E13.gif

Both RO and CF can be a little hit or miss about responses. I typically get acceptable response times from RO (within two days), but they have terrible follow-up (as in, "Let me check that and mail you tomorrow" - that was three weeks ago). CF can also take upwards of three days, but their responses are usually helpful.
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match_head_ wrote:
I got two RO metal pads last week... Shipped out fast, recieved them in 4 days... total cost: $460.
I'd have to say that for $200 each, they suck. They take about 30 lbs to set off a sensor. The sensors are only about 4x6 inches, so you have to step directly in the middle of the sensor to get a response.
By far, the worst part part about them are the metal brackets. The brackets are made out of thin sheet metal, so they bend, and the edges are sharp. I was playing doubles and my shoe got caught on one of the brackets. I stumbled and twisted my ankle. Now my ankle hurts like a mother and makes a sickening popping noise whenever I move it.
I sent RO some angry E-mails on Friday and still have not gotten a response.
I also tried calling them, and left them a few voicemails, still no response.
Their online return authorization form doesn't work either.
Should I try to return the pads?
It looks like I'll have to pay for shipping... $80 and they also charge a 15% restocking fee... $60 and they won't refund the shipping... $60, so it will cost me $200 to get back my $400.
Or.... can I mod they somehow to make them more responsive, and get rid of those EVIL brackets?

By the way... RO pads do not feel like arcade pads. I bought them because they claimed that they were replicas of the arcade pads, but the buttons are not sunk like they are in the arcade. The surface is mostly flat except for the freakin' brackets and screws.

I say avoid RO metal pads because they suck and there is no customer service.


Following up on this, I sent RO a question just to ask them how their pads compare to CF. No response.

I sent the same/similar email to CF and got a response within a few hours. You can read it on my blog at ddrnewguy.blogspot.com.

So based on what I have read here, RO is unresponsive and CF is responsive. As the price of the product you purchase increases, you should value customer service more.


The CF pad is obviously better than the RO pad (they're $100 more) so why does it suprise you that RO wouldn't respond to your query while CF responds with a nice marketing jingle? It's not good business to say that another product is better than yours, but it is good busniess to do the opposite.


Actually - shortly after I posted, RO did post a response to me with a pretty comprehensive answer (see it on my blog - ddrnewguy.blogspot.com).

And just because something cost more doesn't mean it's better.

Also - I sent ROs response to CF, because RO disses CF in their note to me. I want to see what CF has to say about this.
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1612. PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was wondering if the Bns metal pads are anygood because i plan on getting one for my home but i might change my mind if i get a lot of negative feedback. nerd.gif
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Yeah, I was wondering what the best metal pad is. I'm thinking either purchasing the Red Octane one or the Cobalt Flux one. Can anyone here tell me which of the two are better, or if there are other metal pads that I haven't seen that are even better than these two?

Which metal pad do you reccomend?

I also want to know how much each metal pad weighs. I believe a CF weighs 20lbs right?
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1614. PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 9:29 pm    Post subject: Need some advice Reply with quote

Alright, well first off, I skipped through most of the pages...
Im buying a metal pad, and I want your input on the following...

Red Octane Metal Pad
- $200 +shipping = $255 roughly
I know that Red Octane is a great company, but I'd really rather not spend that much money.

http://store.yahoo.com/adux/redoctanemetalpad.html

BNS Metal Pad
- $140 +shipping = $185 rougly
A bit better price-wise than Red Octane, but I don't know how well it stacks up.

http://www.buynshop.com/productinfo/44/VG-DDR-MPD

Konamix Metal Pad
- $100 +shipping = $140 roughly
Well since money IS a factor for me, obviously I would prefer to get this pad, but I have no clue how good of a product it actually is.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=21185&item=8119700733&rd=1

Now, none of these pads have acrylic plastic, so that is nice, but I have no clue about the metal used for the wiring. I don't mind modding it myself for the additional small fee, but it isn't that important to me anyways. Basically, if anyone knows that these pads work well (i.e. respond fine and won't have to be fixed every month), those are the people that I want to respond.

Thank You for any help you can give.
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You forgot Cobalt Flux.

I'm going through the metal pad search and getting feed back from the manufacturers on my blog.
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Hey evryone i havnt been on this thread in awhile but my pad is finnaly done!!! YAY well anyways ill have pics here as soon as i can find my camera laugh.gif .
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Also - I sent ROs response to CF, because RO disses CF in their note to me. I want to see what CF has to say about this.


Where was the dis? There was the statement that RO builds the best metal pads on the market, but it isn't as though they said, "CFs r 4 suckaz!"

It wouldn't do them any good to say, "We might be second best" when you're sending them a message essentially saying, "Prove to me your pad rules." E1.gif

I mean, really, you're just starting a pissing match between the two. What's the point? You'll get much more valid opinions from the people right here.
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Okay, after about 5 days of having my BNS, i've concluded that it is very good. The only prob is the samll conductor size... you kinda have to hit the near center of the arrow... which isnt very hard. It also has polycarbonate plastic. If you sheet metal mod this pad, it will be your best buy for the price.. unless you try ebay...
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Also - I sent ROs response to CF, because RO disses CF in their note to me. I want to see what CF has to say about this.


Where was the dis? There was the statement that RO builds the best metal pads on the market, but it isn't as though they said, "CFs r 4 suckaz!"

It wouldn't do them any good to say, "We might be second best" when you're sending them a message essentially saying, "Prove to me your pad rules." E1.gif

I mean, really, you're just starting a pissing match between the two. What's the point? You'll get much more valid opinions from the people right here.


This just goes back to what I said in my earlier post, it's not good business to admit that your competitor is better.
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