Forums FAQForums FAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister   ProfileProfile   Login to check your private messagesLogin to check your private messages   LoginLogin 

Shadowing: Right or Wrong?
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next  
This topic is locked you cannot edit posts or make replies    DDR Freak Forum Index -> DDR Chit-Chat
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
TheEnemy287
Trick Member
Trick Member


Joined: 30 Jun 2004
Location: Smyrna, DE
20. PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2004 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm just stating my opinion. How you take it is entirely up to you. I'm not going to sit here and say one person is wrong, and another is right, because it is entirely OPINIONS.

I was just stating my opinion on your opinion. But out of curiosity, do you play with other people if they are playing, or do you only play by yourself?

Reason I ask being, if you play by yourself, then you don't have to deal wiht people throwing you off. But what if you're playing with someone who is trying to get better, say playing Sakura on Heavy for the first time. Maybe you can do it, but maybe she/he can't. They might be offbeat, which would still throw you off.
_________________
Arrows are like crack for your feet.

*scratch* I need it...
Back to top
View users profile Send private message Visit posters website AOL Instant Messenger
~Reign~
Trick Member
Trick Member


Joined: 16 May 2002
Location: Berkeley, CA
21. PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2004 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheEnemy287 wrote:
I'm just stating my opinion. How you take it is entirely up to you. I'm not going to sit here and say one person is wrong, and another is right, because it is entirely OPINIONS.

I was just stating my opinion on your opinion. But out of curiosity, do you play with other people if they are playing, or do you only play by yourself?

Reason I ask being, if you play by yourself, then you don't have to deal wiht people throwing you off. But what if you're playing with someone who is trying to get better, say playing Sakura on Heavy for the first time. Maybe you can do it, but maybe she/he can't. They might be offbeat, which would still throw you off.


First off, you're not just simply stating your opinion, you are forcing your opinion onto mine, and you shouldn't do that. Second, I usually play by myself unless someone asks me to play with them, and it's usually people who are around my same level or better. Once in a blue moon, players on a lower level ask me to help them out, and that's fine with me. Last, I don't know if you know this, but people who are "good" don't need to shadow, and the ones that are not so good should at least ask first before jumping on and shadowing because you're doing a song they can't pass. That is very rude.
_________________
My ultimate goal is to put hands on people...
Back to top
View users profile Send private message Send email AOL Instant Messenger Xbox Live Gamertag
TheEnemy287
Trick Member
Trick Member


Joined: 30 Jun 2004
Location: Smyrna, DE
22. PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2004 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moving on to the part where you actually answered the question... Thanks for answering. (I have no mean's of agruing it, I was just wondering).

And just because a player is "good" doesn't mean they can't shadow.

Around here, I'm considered a "good" DDR player. I play usually on heavy, only a few songs(10 footers) that I can't pass yet. I still shadow, because it's still fun.

And yes, I agree, people should ask before they jump on and shadow.

Again, thanks for your input.
_________________
Arrows are like crack for your feet.

*scratch* I need it...
Back to top
View users profile Send private message Visit posters website AOL Instant Messenger
P-Chan
Staff Member
Staff Member


Joined: 11 Mar 2002
Location: Chihuahua,Chih. México
23. PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2004 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't like people shadowing me... usually they are off beat... and then there's the shadow who wants to prove he's better than the one who paid for the credit...

I don't care for a shadow if he asks first... I usually say no, but every now and then I agree... but most people here just jump in the pad in the middle of a song
_________________
Back to top
View users profile Send private message
DaBesDiabetic
Trick Member
Trick Member


Joined: 20 Mar 2002
Location: Lenox
24. PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2004 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

its right if you playing on the pad next to the actual player and wrong if its on the floor behind.
_________________
Bar rape is a crime to.
Back to top
View users profile Send private message Send email AOL Instant Messenger
Liquid Zero
Trick Member
Trick Member


Joined: 11 Apr 2003
25. PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2004 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nyssa wrote:
Liquid Zero wrote:
nyssa wrote:

In my opinion, it's a good way to work out technical problems without risking a failed game - as long as you're not messing up the other person, I don't see how it would be a problem.


It could be a problem if the player is trying to score as minimum greats as possible in a full combo. Sometimes the shadowing person could be off-beat, which could cause the player to lose a little bit of focus. This is very annoying to some, like myself.
(Especially when someone else can't stay on beat during MAX 300; things start to sound like a friggin machine gun went off...)

...so that's why I always stress asking before the song is played to shadow. Don't just get up there. We aren't psychic, so we don't know what the player's particular aim is with the next song.

Don't get me wrong, I don't mind shadowing. I'm very tolerable. But common courtesy should be stressed when it comes to that kind of thing.



Ahem...


nyssa wrote:

However, I have no problem, provided they A: ask, B: keep on beat (I don't care what notes they're hitting, but they'd better be on beat), and C: stop when/if I ask them to (usually if they're throwing me off).



I think you're trying to disagree with someone who agrees with you. E13.gif


lol.

Holy crap I didn't read the last sentence thoroughly. I thought you said there couldn't be a problem with shadowing. My bad. happy.gif
Back to top
View users profile Send private message Send email
nyssa
Trick Member
Trick Member


Joined: 11 May 2004
Location: ...where the basketweavers sit and smile and twiddle their thumbs and toes...
26. PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2004 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hehe, it's all good. E13.gif
_________________
LIEK OMG I DON'T HAVE TEH AVAZ0RZ ANYMOR!!1! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
Back to top
View users profile Send private message Visit posters website AOL Instant Messenger Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger
Ryu_Hirakashi
Trick Member
Trick Member


Joined: 24 Jan 2002
Location: Middle River, MD
27. PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2004 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

~Reign~ wrote:
TheEnemy287 wrote:
I'm just stating my opinion. How you take it is entirely up to you. I'm not going to sit here and say one person is wrong, and another is right, because it is entirely OPINIONS.

I was just stating my opinion on your opinion. But out of curiosity, do you play with other people if they are playing, or do you only play by yourself?

Reason I ask being, if you play by yourself, then you don't have to deal wiht people throwing you off. But what if you're playing with someone who is trying to get better, say playing Sakura on Heavy for the first time. Maybe you can do it, but maybe she/he can't. They might be offbeat, which would still throw you off.


First off, you're not just simply stating your opinion, you are forcing your opinion onto mine, and you shouldn't do that. Second, I usually play by myself unless someone asks me to play with them, and it's usually people who are around my same level or better. Once in a blue moon, players on a lower level ask me to help them out, and that's fine with me. Last, I don't know if you know this, but people who are "good" don't need to shadow, and the ones that are not so good should at least ask first before jumping on and shadowing because you're doing a song they can't pass. That is very rude.


Man, you post just spoke nothing but the truth!!!

If you are good why do you need to shadow. I find it annoying and irrelavent to the whole learning process behind playing DDR. But if that is what it will take for you then shadow till your shadow is shadowing you.

Hirakashi Ryu
_________________
Quote:
For a beginner, if learning how to play pop'n music is like a parent holding his / her child's hand while crossing a busty street, then learning to play IIDX is like being kicked out of a moving car in the middle of nowhere and having to scrape enough money for a taxi cab ride home.


Last edited by Ryu_Hirakashi on Sun Jul 18, 2004 8:52 am, edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View users profile Send private message Send email Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger
ButterflyDDRchic
Basic Member
Basic Member


Joined: 13 Jun 2004
Location: New Jersey
28. PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2004 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dont mind someone shadowing me as long as they ask first or if their not distracting me...or just doing it to make fun of you, which i have seen before
Back to top
View users profile Send private message AOL Instant Messenger
Naroznick
Trick Member
Trick Member


Joined: 16 Jul 2004
29. PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, If Someone Wants To Shadow Me, Go Nuts. If Its To Try And make Fun Of Me Or Purposely Try And Distract Me, Then They Usually Regret It Once Im Done. Other Than That, Im Pretty Tough To Distract So I Could Care Less.
Back to top
View users profile Send private message MSN Messenger
Disillusioned
Trick Member
Trick Member


Joined: 24 Jun 2004
Location: Burning AZ
30. PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most of the time, I don't mind it if someone shadows me, but sometimes the extra sound of someone stepping distracts me, and makes it harder for me to concentrate. And I think it's pointless because you don't know if you're getting the steps right when shadowing. I guess it would be good if it's a song you haven't done before and want to see how hard it is, but if you already know it and are just doing it as if you were playing, then I think it's dumb. Why not just play? I'd rather play than shadow.

In fact, last night I played at the local theater. This dude asked me if he could shadow me and I didn't care. However, I ended up getting a B on Break Down on Standard when I probably could have A'd or AA'd it. One thing that I found that works quite well with getting people to stop shadowing you is to do a song that you know they can't do. Next song I did was Maxx Unlimited. After about 10 seconds, the guy quit shadowing.
_________________
Back to top
View users profile Send private message Yahoo Messenger
nyssa
Trick Member
Trick Member


Joined: 11 May 2004
Location: ...where the basketweavers sit and smile and twiddle their thumbs and toes...
31. PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Disillusioned wrote:
After about 10 seconds, the guy quit shadowing.


At least he didn't keep trying by randomly stomping and messing you up. E13.gif
_________________
LIEK OMG I DON'T HAVE TEH AVAZ0RZ ANYMOR!!1! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
Back to top
View users profile Send private message Visit posters website AOL Instant Messenger Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger
GeeForce
Trick Member
Trick Member


Joined: 09 May 2004
Location: Sterling Heights, MI
32. PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DDR_NeRd wrote:
I shadow ppl all the time lol. and I dont care if they shadow me at all nerd.gif


That is exactly me. I was shadowing at the Cedar Point arcade one time and this spectator who obviously never played told me to (quote) "Stop that motherf***er, can't u see he's playing?" blink.gif then said some other stuff to some other ppl. Other than that, no one seems to care when I shadow, and I really don't care if u shadow me. I actually sorta like it, in this weird way. *shrug*. Unless, of course, they're doing it on the other pad. Then they have to ask, but I'll prlly say yes. Hey, it's a free country.
_________________
Kiba's debate skills at their finest...

Tassadar wrote:
MinsiKid wrote:
is just a good feeling.

Have you considered heroin?
Back to top
View users profile Send private message
916 Roseville SUCKS
Trick Member
Trick Member


Joined: 10 May 2004
Location: Roseville, CA
33. PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty basic for me...

You can shadow (with me) if you don't try to act all "bad" "cool" in front of your friends/significant other by trying to distract the other player. So what if your are broke and just want to shadow? Not a problem if you just respect the other player....
_________________
Roseville sucks
Back to top
View users profile Send private message Visit posters website
TheEnemy287
Trick Member
Trick Member


Joined: 30 Jun 2004
Location: Smyrna, DE
34. PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rsvl_rookie wrote:
Pretty basic for me...

You can shadow (with me) if you don't try to act all "bad" "cool" in front of your friends/significant other by trying to distract the other player. So what if your are broke and just want to shadow? Not a problem if you just respect the other player....


Thats exactly how I feel for shadowing...
_________________
Arrows are like crack for your feet.

*scratch* I need it...
Back to top
View users profile Send private message Visit posters website AOL Instant Messenger
runningwolf117
Trick Member
Trick Member


Joined: 18 Jul 2004
Location: DE
35. PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately, in order to get some practice in at People's Plaza you have to Shadow because the second pad is broken. (The censor is dead on the up arrow) so if someone wants to play with you they have no choice but to shadow unless they don't mind seeing the constant misses on the screen. But if the circumstances were normal, I wouldn't care if you'd shadow me, and I'm very hard to distract, even with people yelling. I concentrate hard. laugh.gif
Back to top
View users profile Send private message AOL Instant Messenger Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger
Corey | RanciD
Trick Member
Trick Member


Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Boston
36. PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't care if people shadow as long as they're either on the other pad, like a player would be, or behind me. Sometimes I'll get those people who get right up next to the screen and shadow three steps then screw up and stop then try again, etc. That just makes me mad. I can hear them stomping their hearts out way off beat and it just screws me up. One kid actually had the nerve to jump onto the empty pad mid song and just start flailing all over the place (probably trying to make fun of me). I was playing Waka Laka and I move my arms a lot to help me with the stream full of step jumps in the middle so I used that as my oppurtunity to make it abundantly clear I wasn't happy. I have to say it worked rather well. A few times people shadowing have slowly moved towards my pad and end up getting their foot stomped.
Back to top
View users profile Send private message Visit posters website AOL Instant Messenger MSN Messenger
XiVi
Trick Member
Trick Member


Joined: 10 Oct 2003
37. PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shadowing is okay as long as you know the steps...if not...dont bother cause i ll get pissed if you mess me up E1.gif
Back to top
View users profile Send private message
t3h 3d
Trick Member
Trick Member


Joined: 17 Jun 2004
38. PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

People can shadow me without asking I don't mind , but if I tell them to stop , they better stop. As far as me shadowing others , yeah I shadow people while waiting for my turn , or just because they're playing a song I like. But I always ask first.
Back to top
View users profile Send private message AOL Instant Messenger
Vater5B
Trick Member
Trick Member


Joined: 20 Dec 2002
Location: Moore, OK
39. PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't like people shadowing me. I'm not so good when it comes to putting up with distractions while I am playing DDR, and everyone who has ever shadowed me has been rather obnoxious. No more shadowing.
_________________
In the times when one's mad skills are questioned, just remember: I got the babel fish.
Back to top
View users profile Send private message AOL Instant Messenger
Display posts from previous:   
This topic is locked you cannot edit posts or make replies    DDR Freak Forum Index -> DDR Chit-Chat All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next
Page 2 of 3

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB 2 © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group