Shadowing: Right or Wrong?

TheEnemy287 · Trick Member Joined: 30 Jun 2004 Location: Smyrna, DE

Down where I play, there are some people who only like to play singles, however, they don't mind if people shadow them.

At the same time, there arn't alot of people that play down here, so we don't really mind waiting. Sometimes, only one person has money to play, so everyone else just watches, and usually someone shadows.

One guy down here hates it when people shadow him, he doesn't mind playing with people, but he won't let people shadow him. He claims he can "See that they are just shadowing out of the corner of his eyes".

What I'm getting at is, How is shadowing looked upon by other places. Do you guy's think it's an ignorant way of playing(because you don't pay), or do you think it's ok?
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Halo001 · Trick Member Joined: 15 Jun 2004

I personally dont care if you shadow.
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Liquid Zero · Trick Member Joined: 11 Apr 2003

When it comes down to it, Shadowing is okay if it is under consent of the other player. If it isn't, then it's not okay.

Because of this, I usually ask the person if I can shadow before I try to do it, even if it's most likely that he/she wouldn't mind.

(Personally, I hate it when people shadow out of nowhere, without asking. 8 times out of 10, the other player will get annoyed.)

Irob · Trick Member Joined: 05 Apr 2003 Location: Boringtown, NJ

I usually would like it if the person asked to shadow. It reminds me of a funny sign on a techno motion machine-

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TheEnemy287 · Trick Member Joined: 30 Jun 2004 Location: Smyrna, DE

Ohh, yeah, forgot to mention about asking.

(Yes I do ask, if they're in the middle of a song, I wait till it's over, then ask. Or, I wait till a pause in the song.)

Thanks for the input so far.
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Cha0sAnGeL · Trick Member Joined: 20 Jan 2004 Location: Springfield, VA

As long as you ask if you can first I dont think there's anything wrong with it.

Shinmizu · Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2004 9:02 am Post subject:

Here's an example of when shadowing is just wrong:

Skinny dude that looks like he took ballet because his PA has more style than your FS gets on the platform next to scary Goth-wannabe anorexic girl and puts in one credit. SDTLLHTBBHPAHMSTYFS then plays on the 1P side while SG-WAG shadows on the 2P side. After the game is over, SDTLLHTBBHPAHMSTYFS moves over to the 2P side and shadows SG-WAG as she plays on the 1P side. So, took people played two games through mutual shadowing.

Of course, they don't seem to care that some people have to drive an hour and a half to get to the arcade and don't care to wait through two turns everytime two people go up.
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Liquid Zero · Trick Member Joined: 11 Apr 2003

Arrgh, I hate that too. Forgot to mention that. Sadly, nothing can really be done about that.

CiboMatto · Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2004 9:21 am Post subject:

Alright. Here's my take on shadowing. I think Shadowing can be alright under a few circumstances:

A) You ask to play
B) It's a song you've never played and it's looks interesting to learn
C) It's a song you HAVE played and you would just like to do it for fun before your turn

I don't think shadowing is okay if you're broke..it's kinda like getting free play from other peoples money. Personal opinion though. I guess it could be alright for like one or two rounds, but then it's just plain mooching.
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messicamouse · Trick Member Joined: 08 Oct 2003 Location: groton, ma

shadow all you want (with asking of course) but for ccrying out loud... please do NOT be insanely off and loud stompy... kuz it throws me off and most likely everyone else.

i hate when someone stomps so loud and then they are wrong... kuz then i cant hear the beat right and i mess up

sad sad. especially because that was my money in the machine... meh.
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chibidjinn · Trick Member Joined: 11 Nov 2003 Location: Central Oregon

Usually I do not mind, but if it's someone that looks rude and obnoxious to my mind, then I get annoyed. But of course I don't say anything...

DDR_NeRd · Basic Member Joined: 29 May 2004 Location: Florida

I shadow ppl all the time lol. and I dont care if they shadow me at all

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~Reign~ · Trick Member Joined: 16 May 2002 Location: Berkeley, CA

Personally, I hate ppl shadowing me. I can see them in the corner of my eye. If I want a shadow, I'll just go outside on a sunny day. If they asked first, I'll still say no, but thank them for asking. However, if someone just jumps on while I'm doing a song, I'll get upset and tell them to stop, and if they keep doing it, I'll push them off, kuz that's how much I hate shadowing.
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nyssa · Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2004 10:43 am Post subject:

Being as I'm usually the only Heavy player in my arcade, most people can't shadow me very well. However, I have no problem, provided they A: ask, B: keep on beat (I don't care what notes they're hitting, but they'd better be on beat), and C: stop when/if I ask them to (usually if they're throwing me off).

It's preferable when others let me do the same with them. I always ask politely, as they're putting their credits in, whether or not they mind me shadowing on the pad. If they mind me shadowing on the pad, I then ask if they mind if I shadow off to the side, where they can't see me but I can see the screen. Very few people seem to mind that, at least.

In my opinion, it's a good way to work out technical problems without risking a failed game - as long as you're not messing up the other person, I don't see how it would be a problem.
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DDRguyKAOS · Trick Member Joined: 04 Jun 2004 Location: Next up

absolutely ask BEFORE the song has begun. I dont like when I'm in the middle of a song and somebody starts trying to talk to me, whether thers a pause or not. As far as shadowing gos, If I want to shadow I just do it off the pad. It depends what Im doing, If Im just having fun like playing some hidden and cool songs I have no prob with ppl shodowing, but untill I get more than a darn 499 combo on So Deep, no thx. Get what i mean? ^^
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Illusion Bomb · Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2004 11:18 am Post subject:

I used to just jump up on the second pad and shadow complete strangers. After awhile, someone asked me not to do it and I realized it was pretty annoying, and stopped. I only shadow friends or let other people that ask shadow me. Though, there was an annoying gangsta poser that jumped up on the second pad acting like a spaz while I was playing oni, but I guess that isn't considered shadowing.

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