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vsamaco
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1440.  Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 9:58 am Post subject: |
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| brkbeat_princess wrote: | is there a difference between the redoctane ignition dance pad (gamestop - $100) and the ignition pads on ebay (2 for $24.99 + s&h)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=41017&item=8115471668
i bought one of the redoctane ones yesterday..but if the pads on ebay are comparable to the one i bought, i'd rather return it and save the money..any help would be appreciated  thanks! |
You'd want the v3.0 pads which have the hard foam like the RO's. The v2.5 has the soft foam which isn't as good. Here is a link to v3.0 pads here. Unfortunately, they only sells xbox pads with the game. You can get an ps2 pad and ps2-xbox convertor from walmart for $20.
Here is a review of the ps2 version of the pad (really no difference).
There isn't too much of a difference. If you've played with BNS or RO pad, you may notice the vortzgame pad require a little more force to step on the arrow, but it gets better as you play on it more. Also there is a very limited coverage for the ebay pads as opposed to RO's 60 day warranty... but I'm not sure whats the warranty if you bought it from the store, 30 days?
There have been many people here who've ordered vortz pads and most of them seemed pretty satisfied and are very durable with their gameplay. Their post are on the very last pages of this topic. If you take care of the pads, either pads will last you atleast 1-2 months w/o problems, with an overall life of 6 months depending on the amount of usage. If you willing to do w/o the warranty, get two very good pads for less and comfortable with ebay (very reliable dealer), then I'd say go for vortz pads. |
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AznCaraboo
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| 1441. Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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My friend has an Ignition pad that he bought from the internet [dunno which one]. The problem is that the pad moves around too much. Do you kno where to get those "stickers" that you stick them under the pad so they do not move much? Or is there something better that prevents the pad to move around too much [besides plywood]? If so - what do they call those and where to buy them?
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FoxFireX
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| 1442. Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2004 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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| charly wrote: | i was looking for a website like that but couldnt find any  , so i decided to make my own....www.ddr-pad-fix.tk
be sure to check it out...  |
I just wanted to thank you for putting that up there. While I actually had already opened one of my older pads before to see if I could fix some ghosting/unresponsiveness problems, I never thought to replace the foam. I saw some folds and breaks in the bottom plastic conductor layer, so I fixed those as best as I could, but still had problems, and disappointedly put the pad away to buy a new one. After seeing this, I dragged the old one out and performed a complete foamectomy. Ripped out every last bit of the old foam layer and put in a new layer of relatively sturdy stuff from a fabric store. A couple of hours of Xacto-ing out the holes for each contact, and the pad was as good as new, not to mention softer than before. So like I said above, thanks!
One thing I thought of, and I'll see how much I like it as time goes on, was to reduce the area of sensitivity for the corner buttons. I use the pad on Ultramix sometimes, where you can't disable Dance Play on a pad that goes through a converter, so overstepping onto the corners is a problem. Now, the O and X pads only have about 2/3 of their area exposed, with about a 1 inch strip near the arrows fully covered by foam, and the back buttons are about 1/3 exposed. I haven't tried it yet, but this should reduce misses caused by having a foot accidentally trigger a corner button. |
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smudgespot
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| 1443. Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2004 9:08 am Post subject: Red Octane Ignition 2.0, should I mod? |
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After reading your post about the best soft pads, I got a RO Ignition 2.0. I may have misunderstood, but I thought that if I bought that one I wouldn't need to mod, but another posts said ALL soft pads should be modded. It does feel a bit mushy under my feet, but I am a bit worried about modding it... what's your take?
Also, do you recommed covers, or that just another $15 down the tube... |
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Binary Dragon
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| 1444. Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 1:25 am Post subject: |
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I searched the thread and found some other mentions of this problem, but no solutions. Maybe someone can help though.
I just bought a BNS DX-Xtreme pad, which I have had for all of 5 days now. The problem is that the little raised inserts that go under the arrows (not the hard foam piece that you zipper in, but the small thin things that make the arrow buttons higher up than the other ones) have started to slip out of place. The left arrow insert has migrated about two inches to the right (towards the center of the pad) and the right arrow insert has shifted about four inches to the left.
The question is thus. Did I just get a faulty pad and need to have this one replaced, or is this a common occurance that has a simple fix, and if so, what is it? |
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vsamaco
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| 1445. Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 7:05 am Post subject: |
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| Binary Dragon wrote: | I searched the thread and found some other mentions of this problem, but no solutions. Maybe someone can help though.
I just bought a BNS DX-Xtreme pad, which I have had for all of 5 days now. The problem is that the little raised inserts that go under the arrows (not the hard foam piece that you zipper in, but the small thin things that make the arrow buttons higher up than the other ones) have started to slip out of place. The left arrow insert has migrated about two inches to the right (towards the center of the pad) and the right arrow insert has shifted about four inches to the left.
The question is thus. Did I just get a faulty pad and need to have this one replaced, or is this a common occurance that has a simple fix, and if so, what is it? |
After 5 days, I should say its faulty and suggest getting it replaced. It mostly happens with some pads very later on. There isn't a simple fix because you have to open up the pad to get to it. The cause is probably due to factory fault not securing the insert properly to the arrow. |
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Misirlou
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| 1446. Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 8:26 am Post subject: |
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Huh. I just had exactly the same problem and came here to post about it.
(The little pad that causes the left arrow to be raised a slid a bit out of place).
This seems like it should be simple to fix, but I can't seem to work it back into place. I've considered opening it up and cutting through the very edge of the inner layers, but I think the pads are behind all of them, right under the vinyl. Anyone else deal with this already? |
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vsamaco
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| 1447. Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 9:21 am Post subject: |
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| Misirlou wrote: | Huh. I just had exactly the same problem and came here to post about it.
(The little pad that causes the left arrow to be raised a slid a bit out of place).
This seems like it should be simple to fix, but I can't seem to work it back into place. I've considered opening it up and cutting through the very edge of the inner layers, but I think the pads are behind all of them, right under the vinyl. Anyone else deal with this already? |
Check this site to see whats inside your pad here. Although it lacks info about insert under the raised arrow. On two of my ignition pad, some of the inserts have moved... but not to a point that it messes me up. |
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FireWERX
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| 1448. Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 1:00 am Post subject: |
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Hey guys,
I've decided to get into DDR and I could use a little advice about the cheapo pad I'll probably end up buying. I work at EBgames and at the moment, the only pad we carry is the $18 Mad Catz Beat Pad . The reason I'm going the cheap route is because I can exchange the pad an infinite amount of times for free. And not to mention a little employee discount along the way.
I'd like to get an adaptor and get it working on the pc, I have a playstation 2, but at $6.75 /hour, I'm not too eager to spend money on games ~_~.
So I guess my question is, what mods need I apply to keep this thing lasting long enough to where I don't get fired for returning it every other week. 
Thanks, Keep it on the rocks,
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Vashu The Stampedo
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| 1449. Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 6:55 am Post subject: |
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| FireWERX wrote: | So I guess my question is, what mods need I apply to keep this thing lasting long enough to where I don't get fired for returning it every other week.
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Go to Tips and Hints over on the left menu, then go to the modding FAQ. |
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Max Period
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| 1450. Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 10:14 am Post subject: |
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| Vashu The Stampedo wrote: | | FireWERX wrote: | So I guess my question is, what mods need I apply to keep this thing lasting long enough to where I don't get fired for returning it every other week.
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Go to Tips and Hints over on the left menu, then go to the modding FAQ. |
If your trying to help someone atleast give the correct names and atleast mention that your talking about the main page to this site. Even I read that and didnt know what you were talking about for a second.
here is the link: http://www.ddrfreak.com/library/faqs-modding.php |
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batdance
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| 1451. Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 11:30 am Post subject: |
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Does the "DDR Deluxe pad 3.0" from level six.com, need any moding?
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vsamaco
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| 1452. Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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| batdance wrote: | | Does the "DDR Deluxe pad 3.0" from level six.com, need any moding? |
Modding of ignition pads (insert foam) isn't necessary. People mod cheaper soft pads because of the excessive movement. |
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Trifthen
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| 1453. Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 1:07 pm Post subject: Foam Pad Modding |
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| Quote: | | Modding of ignition pads (insert foam) isn't necessary. People mod cheaper soft pads because of the excessive movement. |
This is simply not true. Ignition-style pads are really just the cheap and flimsy (raised arrows) pads with a zipper pouch attached where the foam insert goes. For those who are used to cheap pads tearing on the underside after a couple months, this will also happen to the relatively expensive Ignition-style pads.
The problem stems from the underside of the pad rubbing against the foam insert. Heavy songs will eventually cause tears, which will of course adversely affect the internal workings of the pad. One way to stop this is to reinforce the part of the pad that sits on top of the foam core. Some people use duct-tape, others use spray-adhesive and window insulating plastic. Whatever you do, do this before using the pad. A couple of my friends didn't know this, and their wonderfully expensive Red Octane Ignition pads were plagued with flickering arrows and other problems within only a couple of months of heavy use.
I opened up one of their pads, showed them the rips, told them why it happened, and how to avoid it, but it was too late to save their pads. Trust me, all soft pads need to be modded. This is actually one reason I don't mind buying cheap foam insert pads, since now I know that even the venerable Red Octane doesn't make pads that won't rip on the inside part above the foam insert. I personally prefer the BNS DX pads as a nice middle ground, but it's probably safe to get the cheapest foam-insert pads as long as the inside is reinforced with something to reduce wear.
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ringo20000
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| 1454. Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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| I've heard that EB has their own warranty for the MadCatz pad, does anyone know how much extra it costs? Also do you just return the pad to the store and get a new one when it eventually dies or do you have to send it away? |
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ddrwannabbe123
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ringo20000
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| 1456. Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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| ddrwannabbe123 wrote: | Ringo2000, i would suggest NOT getting the MadCatz pad. I have heard many complaints about it and madcatz is one compnay's stuff you don't want to use. But yes, you would probably have to be reurned to the store because my friend has had to do that to their mat(Red Octane ignition).
It will probably cost an extra $10-20. |
I already have one that has died after about 6 months, but I can't really afford anything else right now and it does work pretty well when taped to a board. I'm only looking for it to get me through to Christmas and then I might get a metal one. |
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orangina
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| 1457. Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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| I just got RedOctane ignition 2.0 pads. Would it be ok to store them standing up? Or on their side? I dont want to damage them. They do stand fine..but will it mess up the insides. Thanks! |
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Vashu The Stampedo
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| 1458. Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Max Period wrote: | | Vashu The Stampedo wrote: | | FireWERX wrote: | So I guess my question is, what mods need I apply to keep this thing lasting long enough to where I don't get fired for returning it every other week.
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Go to Tips and Hints over on the left menu, then go to the modding FAQ. |
If your trying to help someone atleast give the correct names and atleast mention that your talking about the main page to this site. Even I read that and didnt know what you were talking about for a second.
here is the link: http://www.ddrfreak.com/library/faqs-modding.php |
Well, the only place with a menu on the left is the front page. Thought it was common sense... |
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Nephus
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| 1459. Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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| orangina wrote: | | I just got RedOctane ignition 2.0 pads. Would it be ok to store them standing up? Or on their side? I dont want to damage them. They do stand fine..but will it mess up the insides. Thanks! |
I don't see any reason it would. I've been storing mine behind my projection TV standing on its end, but I've only had it a few days, so I dunno if it'll have any long term effects. I can't think of anything inside it that could possibly be damaged that way, so long as you aren't storing it with the cable edge crammed into the ground... that's the only possibility I can see. |
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