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Weapon Trick Member
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0. Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 10:25 pm Post subject: DIY home made controllers? |
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Been reading in the DDR console page and obviously most of u will know about the home made ddr pads but I was wondering has anyone tried making controllers for the other games? I see some have "attempted" making beatmania controllers but what else have people made? Anyone tried making them for the other bemani games? or have links to pages of people making them? |
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Tomo_kun Trick Member
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1. Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 4:37 am Post subject: |
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There are some instructions floating around for making Pop'ns. Not that many people are actually doing this, Alot of people are now building ASC's for Pop'n and IIDX now. _________________
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hooded__paladin Trick Member
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2. Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 5:23 am Post subject: |
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Because of Beatmania's turntable, few people have successfully made their own mechanism (except the people who are going to mass-produce them - and we all can't wait!). Instead, people use a regular beatmania controller, or the Rave Discman (this is the only good use for it). And, because of the buttons, they aren't cheap, either.
Pop'N controllers are pretty cheap (you could do one for <$75 if you get the buttons from the right place) and easier to make than a DDR pad. |
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CatchyPhraseOwen Trick Member
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4. Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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I figure a homemade DrumMania controller wouldn't be that hard to do... I'd think Para Para Paradise and IIDX (thanks to the turntable) would be hard as hell to make, and KeyboardMania would just be damn pointless. I dunno about Guitar Freaks though, would it be hard to make the "strings"? _________________
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hooded__paladin Trick Member
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5. Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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Guitarmania doesn't use 'strings'. It uses 3 'chording' buttons at the top and one paddle switch that you flick to either side.
I think a good GF hack would be to take a 3rd party controller and replace the horrible parts with arcade buttons and some sort of paddle switch. Like that broom, but... not a broom, that just sucks.
Weren't there some old instructions to make a homemade dancemaniax controller on team gwai lo? Those could be used for para para, too.
I had an idea for a really easy DM controller (a bad one). Make the drum pads out of sheet metal, cover the ends of the drumsticks with some sort of metal contacts and wire those up to a hacked PS controller. Triggers whenever touching. The sound might be bad, though, and the wires might break or annoy you. |
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Tomo_kun Trick Member
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6. Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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Why would you make a home made DMX controller when the game isnt out on PS2? _________________
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Larrikin Contributor
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7. Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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Because its out for Stepmania _________________
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davidbrit2 Trick Member
Joined: 03 May 2002 Location: Grand Rapids area, MI |
8. Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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hooded__paladin wrote: | I think a good GF hack would be to take a 3rd party controller and replace the horrible parts with arcade buttons and some sort of paddle switch. Like that broom, but... not a broom, that just sucks. |
I kind of did that with a Topway guitar once, and it was actually quite usable, to where I could even clear Daydream on it. But since 3rd party guitars are shit, the thing just stopped working after a short time. Next time, I'll probably just build from scratch, assuming I don't somehow get an arcade guitar controller first and wire that up.
And here's my Pop'n Music controller. It cost just under $40 to make this, and I was able to whip out another one for my girlfriend in an hour and a half flat.
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9. Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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davidbrit2 wrote: |
And here's my Pop'n Music controller. It cost just under $40 to make this, and I was able to whip out another one for my girlfriend in an hour and a half flat. |
You get what you pay for....
Why bother making a small one, especially if the the regular small one is only like 10-20 bucks more. _________________
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davidbrit2 Trick Member
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10. Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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Because the official one doesn't have invincible microswitch buttons from Happ Controls. ;-)
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Baka of the Orochi Trick Member
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11. Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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I hope that's sarcasm, because those home controllers hold out a ton longer than a Happ cherry switch/microswitch does O_o |
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davidbrit2 Trick Member
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12. Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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Do they use microswitches? Besides, this cost me less than half of what I'd pay for the Konami, plus it's rock solid.
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Chibi Nappa Trick Member
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13. Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 9:55 am Post subject: |
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I'm about to start on a Pop 'n controller myself. I already ordered the parts and await their arrival. Man, those jumbo dome buttons....ouch they're expensive. $26 each at Happ. That's not even worth thinking about. $10 each at Wico. I went for those. Still....$90 for just the buttons. |
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14. Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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Chibi Nappa wrote: | I'm about to start on a Pop 'n controller myself. I already ordered the parts and await their arrival. Man, those jumbo dome buttons....ouch they're expensive. $26 each at Happ. That's not even worth thinking about. $10 each at Wico. I went for those. Still....$90 for just the buttons. |
I am guessing that the ones from Wico don't illuminate like the ones from Happ. Let me know how they feel once you recieve them. |
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Baka of the Orochi Trick Member
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15. Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 6:02 am Post subject: |
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The official one uses contacts, not microswitches.
The good thing about microswitches is that they're easily replaced, but from what I've experienced, they don't last nearly as long as pad/contacts, at least in PNM's case.
I've already had to replace a switch on a PNM ASC, whereas my home controller is still holding out strong. _________________
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davidbrit2 Trick Member
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16. Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 9:13 am Post subject: |
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Well, microswitches are like a buck each. It's a small price to pay for the increased sensitivity and responsiveness. And mine have been holding out for nearly 5 years now (my controller has buttons that were originally used in my MAME joystick console).
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Chibi Nappa Trick Member
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18. Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I worked on my Pop 'n ASC this weekend and it's almost done. I just need to wire up the lights (yes, the Wico domes light up) and construct a bottom. I might also re-print the top graphics on vinyl instead of paper and add some button labels...but we'll see.
And yes, they are microswitches in there. Feels great to me. I'm having a blast with it. I'm a total Pop 'n newbie, but I can hold my own at IIDX...and so far I can pass songs around a 20 rating or so with this thing. I'll keep you updated as I finish.
Edit: By the way, I used the directions given in the link directly above this post to build this thing, but with a few important modifications: I ordered the large Wico domes instead of the medium flat Happ buttons given in that link, and I made the button spacing 5.7 inches instead of the 4.6 inches given in that link.
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