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0. PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 11:26 pm    Post subject: Should AAA's on shuffle count..? Reply with quote

If this is in the wrong place feel free to move it...but I want outside opinions on the matter. Personally I don't know what to think about it. Yes there are the same amount of steps in the song but it's not the official step pattern..which could make it much easier to AAA a song (Sync Oni for example). What do you guys think???
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1. PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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2. PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, they should count.
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3. PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

a AAA is a AAA...if I were to AAA Max 300 on shuffle, it had damn well better count! while there are cases where shuffle patterns may be easier than the normal steps (sync oni, leading cyber, kiss kiss kiss to name a few) if you get all perfects, it's still ALL PERFECTS (and ok's) so it's a AAA...
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4. PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The machine still shows AAA on the results screen if you get all perfects on a shuffled song. So, I don't know why it shouldn't be counted as a AAA.

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5. PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess it should count. It's not like you're using little or anything, I mean you still have to hit the same number of steps... plus, you have the risk of the steps being harder too, so it's really a matter of chance.
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6. PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lunartick2007 wrote:
I guess it should count. It's not like you're using little or anything, I mean you still have to hit the same number of steps... plus, you have the risk of the steps being harder too, so it's really a matter of chance.


Has anyone ever AAA'd anything on little that had non-1/4 notes?
Doubt it.

It counts those steps as misses, right?
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7. PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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lunartick2007 wrote:
I guess it should count. It's not like you're using little or anything, I mean you still have to hit the same number of steps... plus, you have the risk of the steps being harder too, so it's really a matter of chance.


Has anyone ever AAA'd anything on little that had non-1/4 notes?
Doubt it.

It counts those steps as misses, right?
It doesn't count the steps at all. You just got no dance points for them, so it's really equivalent to getting goods on them. Since you need 100% of the DP in a song, putting a song on little that has even one non-quarter note will mean you can't AAA it.
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9. PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would actually argue that a AAA on shuffle is better than a normal AAA. You never know what you're going to get on shuffle, while you can just memorize the normal steps for a given song. Granted, a AAA is amazing either way and should still count either way. But I just find anything on shuffle more of a challenge (most of the time), especially on 9's and 10's.
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10. PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

for the most part, yes AAAs should count, but certain songs have shuffle patterns that make it 309480248204239432439024023049809 times easier. The only reason why sync oni is hard for example is because of the placement of the skips. Kiss Kiss Kiss could go either way (a grosser shuffle pattern or an easier one), but imo, some songs are difficult because their orginal steps have a certain theme to them (kkk and the crossover freezes), and by changing that, you get rid of the point of the song.
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11. PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

32584 (caffy) wrote:
but imo, some songs are difficult because their orginal steps have a certain theme to them (kkk and the crossover freezes), and by changing that, you get rid of the point of the song.


Thats pretty much what I was thinking E15.gif I know a local guy around here..I play with him quite often and he has around 50 or so AAAs...and he tried AAAing I Was The One over and over again and then he put it on shuffle and got it first try...and I thought right about then...should that even count? *shrugs* carry on wit ya bad selves XD
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12. PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Irish Coffee"][quote="GR"][quote="lunartick2007"]I guess it should count. It's not like you're using little or anything, I mean you still have to hit the same number of steps... plus, you have the risk of the steps being harder too, so it's really a matter of chance.[/quote]

Has anyone ever AAA'd anything on little that had non-1/4 notes?
Doubt it.

It counts those steps as misses, right?[/quote]It doesn't count the steps at all. You just got no dance points for them, so it's really equivalent to getting goods on them. Since you need 100% of the DP in a song, putting a song on little that has even one non-quarter note will mean you can't AAA it.[/quote]

actually its like getting a miss but having nothing subtracted from your dance meter cause a good adds points. its the same way if you take the freezes out. the N.G.'s don't count for or against you. anyway, if you put shuffle on a 10-step song, you AAA an unexpected pattern, but that's my opinion
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13. PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kevdadude121 wrote:

actually its like getting a miss but having nothing subtracted from your dance meter cause a good adds points. its the same way if you take the freezes out. the N.G.'s don't count for or against you. anyway, if you put shuffle on a 10-step song, you AAA an unexpected pattern, but that's my opinion


stfu.........noob

getting a good doesnt add or subtract points, it doesnt add or take life away...the only thing it does is break your combo. Its not like getting a miss because a miss subtracts DP. Putting on little is like taking half of the DP out, making it impossible to AAA a song. disturb.gif One more thing, if you take the freezes out, you dont get NG's, guess why......*GASP* BECAUSE THERE ARE NO FREEZES IN THE SONG!

but you already knew this, right? BTW, werent you the guy making fun of "n00bz"? yeah. sarc.gif
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14. PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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stfu.........noob


but you already knew this, right? BTW, werent you the guy making fun of "n00bz"? yeah. sarc.gif



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15. PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should they "count"...? My opinion, yes.

But, are they different? I also think yes.

If you AAA Sync oni on shuffle, you still got an AAA. But you got one on exactly that: Sync oni shuffle. I think that's different from an AAA on Sync oni non-shuffle. I mean, I took the time to learn how to crossover the whole thing, and now I'm down to 6 greats. Whenever (if-ever >_<) I manage to AAA it, I'll be happy. So, if someone else aaa's it on shuffle, I still say they aaaed it... but it's still different.
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16. PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should they count? Absolutely!

Shuffle relies on your ability to read arrows. I'd doubt one could actually memorize the 6 pattenrs shuffle brings (is it 6 or 8? I don't remember... could someone confirm on that, please?).

I do agree that some shuffle patterns can make a song easier technically (ie: change the way a crossover is done, thus making some easier/harder, depending if you have trouble with them or not), but it can make it harder as well. So I say yes, they should count. They bring a different challenge to the table.
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17. PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes. Hands down....Its that simple...This acutally makes songs more difficult..and sadly others easier..
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18. PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So Deep P Sphere Rmix shuffle ........AAA is an AAA and if you can do it on so deep it damn well better count
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19. PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

like others have said, if it shows a AAA, then you obtained a AAA, although, like ninjafetus said, it's different, mainly because some of the songs are made 'easier' on shuffle, another example (besides sync ONI) that would be easier on shuffle would be Air, IMO
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