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Redfox Trick Member
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40. Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 6:40 pm Post subject: Healing Vision (Angelic Mix) 2MB |
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To Orion78
your post is a little odd because its really long...
The reason i posted the original post is because i want to know why the heart moniter is in the background.
And also i never said i didnt like the song, its just odd...
Whatever. _________________
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41. Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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Orion78 wrote: | redfox wrote: | i was just wondering why there is a heart moniter sound in the background. This is the kind of stuff that makes me not want to play this song(and my dad is in and out of the health clinics) So yeah... |
redfox wrote: | I like this song but it is a little disturbing that a heart moniter is in the backgroung of a song aimed at 10-16 year olds(i think that is the age demographic) |
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Of all the injustices in the world the heart beat monitor noise in Healing Vision ~Angelic Mix~ is clearly the worse. Someone alert the FCC; if this sound effect doesn't offend you then you obviously don't have any sense of separating what is moral from what is immoral. Don't you understand? This game is targeted towards younger audiences and many ten year old kids will forever be traumatized by such a detestably repetitious sound bite. Especially of those who has relatives who have ever stepped foot into a hospital and were in need of a heart monitoring machine. It's a very sensitive issue for many and hearing the constant beeping for a whole three minutes will surely either bring about uncontrollable seizures or a upswell of a deep rooted depression stemming from the relentless reminder of a loved one attached to a machine that makes such a horrific noise. As for kids who have never had to witness the horrors of having a loved on attached to a heart monitoring machine, the sound ceaselessly playing in the background of a DDR song only desensitizes their susceptible little minds. What will become of our society if such an atrocity is left unattended? Kids will grow up and think nothing of such an important issue, and instead of being dismayed by heart beat monitor noises they will instead start dancing to them and all chaos will ensue henceforth. Truly the worse ever.
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My God, I hope the song Paranoia Eternal doesn't also sadden you when it reminds you of your mentally unstable hypochondriac cousin Milfred.
It's just a sound effect. Get over it. Thanks. |
The only person mentally unstable in my family is myself thatnk you very much.... _________________
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42. Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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Neemo wrote: | Hmn... I have a friend who loves that song a lot. Its his defining song in DDR. He never misses a full combo. He mastered that song to the point where he at least makes at most 29 greats. He once got a 7 great but he had attained "THEFLY", which is something you do not know of and i shall not discuss. Why am i telling you this? No reason.
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lol, Neemo. You like referring to me, eh?
Yes, HVAM is the greatest song ever to grace DDR, in my humble opinion. The fact that it tells a story is compelling, I didn't know that. Now it just makes me obsess over it even more. I am a sucker for Symbolism . |
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Orion78 Basic Member
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43. Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 11:02 am Post subject: Re: Healing Vision (Angelic Mix) 2MB |
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RedFox wrote: | To Orion78
your post is a little odd because its really long...
The reason i posted the original post is because i want to know why the heart moniter is in the background.
And also i never said i didnt like the song, its just odd...
Whatever. |
Well thank God someone here is perceptive enough to discern what is odd from, well... even? I guess since my post is long, that makes it odd. Clearly. I did notice it was long, but without your help I would have been forever oblivious to the fact that it was odd. Thank you so much for that. I find it a little odd myself that I never said you didn't like the song, yet you still put words in my mouth as if I did. Rather odd indeed. I guess my post was too long and odd to really notice such elusive things.
You know what else I find rather odd? The fact that you mention how you don't want to play the heart beat monitoring noise ladened song because your dad has been in and out of clinics. Let's not forget how you mentioned the DDR demographic and how disturbing you claimed the sound effect to be because of said demographic. It's a little odd to me that a sound effect could elicit such a response. If you just wanted to know why the sound effect is there, then so be it (aside from the fact that it's quite obvious considering the hospital bed backdrop and the fact that themes are quite abundant and prevalent throughout DDR). The sound effect is disturbing? Hardly. The sound effect is a reason to not want to play the song? Hardly. Due to the sound effect's obscure yet psuedo-intricate ties with the notion of people being monitored while suffering from life threatening illnesses, the sound effect is inappropriate enough that 10 year old kids should never be exposed to it? Hardly. Rather odd I'd say.
Sorry this post was rather long. Although I tried to make it slightly shorter than the last in hopes that this post will not be foolhardily deemed as "odd." I'll pray for the best.
I will now conclude with the most opportune closing statement to ever grace this board: "whatever." |
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44. Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2004 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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HVAM is one of the coolest and funner songs on DDR, i'm trying to AAA it on heavy
Don't be afraid of it, fear PSM:Oni or something, but not HVAM. _________________
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46. Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2004 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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PIE. wrote: | {SFSA} Zeta wrote: | RanciD wrote: | The same reason the background is a hospital bed. The heart monitor is a crucial part of the song. At first it's going pretty steadily and the song is pretty calm. It gets more complicated as the heart rate gets worse then the pause hits, the heart stops and the song goes crazy. Finally at the very end everything stops and the heart beat comes back.
The song tells a story.. | sweet explanination dude. i myself love HVAM. but to the poster of the topic, if the song makes u feel uncomfortable, u dont have to listen to it. if some1 is playing and u r there, just get up and leave. |
Or walk to the other side of the arcade. |
...or take two steps away, 'cause, y'know, if you can't touch the machine, you probably can't hear it anymore because of all the noise from other games. _________________
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47. Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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personally, i think HVAM and CSFILSM were on the good side of remixes, and cutie chaser morning mix was the worst(3 light, 3 standard, 5 heavy)but that's irrelevent. that's a heart moniter? i thought it was just a bunch of beeping. now that i think about it, that song does represent a hospital. _________________
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48. Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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I feel sorry for you and your dad but....
Naoki/Konami didn't make this song to offend you, nor is it their intention to offend anyone.
It's like TV/Art/Anything viewable by the public, if you get offended, you can simply change the channel, look at another piece, or in this case, not play the song.
Stylistically, the song is supposed to represent life, whereas the original healing vision was supposed to represent death, at least this is what I've come to reason.
Don't take it too harsh, because no one else is. _________________
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49. Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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Well, Healing Vision, and HVAM are follow up songs.
Healing Vision is about someone having a heart attack or the like, and being rushed to the hospital. There's a moment when his heart beat is dangerously slow, and it gets back to normal. During HVAM(with the hostipal bed, and a heart rate wave thing in the backround, and the heart rate), it's about the guy in the hospital, being rushed from room to room, with a heart moniter attatched to him. At one point his heart stops, and comes back, and at the end it's normal again. The "ahhhs..." are supposed to be "angels" coming to him keeping him alive. It's a very moving song. |
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52. Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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Corey said it best I think. I had never even thought about the end the way he pointed out... when the heartbeat stops, the song goes frantic, like life fighting to hang on, and the final step at a slower tempo as the heartbeat returns. Very clever use of step timing and the heartbeat to tell the story.
Anyway, the sound of it never scared me, but I originally found the beeps annoying as hell, to the point where I wouldn't play the song... until I hit Heavy. Seriously (whoever started this thread) if you play it on Heavy, you often wont even notice the beeps. It's a very intense song and you focus more on the backbeats as they are what the steps are "attached" to.
Also, I don't think you can fully appreciate the little "story" of the song on anything less than Heavy. On Light, after the heart stops, if I recall, the song has a huge pause with no arrows. That could also symbol the person temporarily lifeless, but I think it works better going into a frenzy on Heavy, like flailing around if you cant breathe.
Anyway, if it disturbs you cause your dad is often on heart monitors, sorry to hear that. Hope he gets better, and I guess avoid the song if it's a source of pesonal distress. |
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54. Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 5:59 am Post subject: |
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heh HVAM. Don't get me wrong its a cool song to play (spinny freestyle on light, good workout on heavy) but i'm not fond of the song. Before i heard about the whole story deal from my boyfriend i just thought the hospital bed was a little freaky and the song sounded disturbing (not the beeps). Passed it on heavy and didn't touch it again. After i heard the story it freaked me out and i'm no 10 year-old
I know at the end the song is life and the theme of survival jumps to mind due to the story. But for me when i emotionally connect with the song all i find is trauma...The disturbing melody...the story which lasts for the main piece of the song. I don't listen to this song on my CD player anymore cause last time i heard it i felt sick for the whole afternoon At the arcade tho it's not really a problem, especially when i'm playing it, i just pay more attention to the arrows.
So yeah thumbs up for creative song + steps but sorry it just nails my emotions in a bad way _________________
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55. Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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That's cool though. As one of the songs on DDR that has a serious story connected to it, I think it's a good sign that songs on DDR didn't have to be all happy (aka Butterfly, Candy, anyhting with kiss or love in the title).
We can have songs like HVAM, or Drop out, or Ecstacy, and stuff like Paranoia Survivor, where the theme is just to LIVE through it. _________________
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56. Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2004 6:18 am Post subject: |
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Crufix wrote: | think it's a good sign that songs on DDR didn't have to be all happy (aka Butterfly, Candy, anyhting with kiss or love in the title). |
Haha. ^^Winnar!^^ |
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57. Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2004 9:43 am Post subject: |
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Crufix wrote: | That's cool though. As one of the songs on DDR that has a serious story connected to it, I think it's a good sign that songs on DDR didn't have to be all happy (aka Butterfly, Candy, anyhting with kiss or love in the title).
We can have songs like HVAM, or Drop out, or Ecstacy, and stuff like Paranoia Survivor, where the theme is just to LIVE through it. |
True that...
HVAM is a hard song, but I've found it's absolutely fun once you are able to do it. It's probably my favorite one to do out of the upper-tier 9 footers. The hard beat keeps you going throughout, and at the end after that long 8th note run, it does leave you with a feeling that you survived the song (as opposed to having just completed it). Besides, it looks really cool to people who can't pass it. _________________
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59. Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2004 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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I love Healing Vision. Even on Light it's fun. Just they way the steps don't stop (Until the Beeping changes).
but seriously, if you don't like the song, then don't listen to it/ play it. I'm sick and tired of people complaining about stuff that they don't have to complain about. Somplaining about something you could so easily stop is sort of dumb. Sorry if I offended anyone, but that's my opinion.... _________________
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