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Black_Rose Basic Member
Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Location: Tijuana, Mexico |
0. Posted: Mon May 24, 2004 9:35 am Post subject: Help on Ideas on how to evaluate a DDR Tournament |
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Hey guys, first post here on this forums
Here in my hometown, the main DDR players hangout is planning a tournament, and im kinda involved in the planning
now my question is the following, how can I evaluate the participants, I wanted it to be freestyle, but only a few 3 persons do some freestyle, so, what would be the obvious way to do it?
by score?
any ideas are apreciated, thanx _________________
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Slowpoke Trick Member
Joined: 28 Oct 2003
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1. Posted: Mon May 24, 2004 9:46 am Post subject: Re: Help on Ideas on how to evaluate a DDR Tournament |
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Black_Rose wrote: | what would be the obvious way to do it?
by score?
any ideas are apreciated, thanx |
No, you'd want to do it by # of perfects. The only argument would be whether to make it 2 out of 3, or cumulative over 3 rounds. |
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Black_Rose Basic Member
Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Location: Tijuana, Mexico |
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BlueScreenJunky Trick Member
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Location: France |
3. Posted: Mon May 24, 2004 11:44 am Post subject: |
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You might want to use the dance point system :
Perfect = 2
Great = 1
Good = 0
Boo = -4
Miss = -8
OK = 6
NG = 0
This way you won't have a player scoring better with a A than someone who AAed the same song
And yeah, you can't use freestyle because most players are scorers, but if there are enough freestylers maybe you could run 2 different tournaments for score and freestyle, that's what we do around here (and there's often more people in the freestyle tournament than in the score one o_O) |
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The Game II Contributor
Joined: 06 Mar 2002 Location: Long Beach or Glendale, CA |
4. Posted: Mon May 24, 2004 12:58 pm Post subject: Re: Help on Ideas on how to evaluate a DDR Tournament |
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Black_Rose wrote: | Hey guys, first post here on this forums
Here in my hometown, the main DDR players hangout is planning a tournament, and im kinda involved in the planning
now my question is the following, how can I evaluate the participants, I wanted it to be freestyle, but only a few 3 persons do some freestyle, so, what would be the obvious way to do it?
by score?
any ideas are apreciated, thanx |
Wait, you mention freestyle, but you put up a dance points system that's used for tech competitions, so I guess you want a stepping tournament.
That being said, if you have a stepping tournament, stay away from machine score. It is a poor indicator of who did better (someone who gets 497 perfects on So Deep could lose to someone who has 496 perfects). Noting that you said "almost" and "boo," I'm guessing the mix you have or will be using is something of a US version.
There are a few point systems you can use for a stepping tournament.
The standard dance points system, which the machine uses to determine AAs and A's and stuff...
2/1/0/-4/-8/6
A lesser version that doesn't penalize as harsh.
2/1/0/-2/-4/2
Oni scoring
2/1/0/0/0/0
Reverse scoring (least points wins)
0/1/2/3/4/0
And as Bluescreenjunky said, freestylers don't pay attention to perfects and such. Some Southwest tournies have used the machine grading system to award/penalize points, something I'm totally against. With freestyle, the only things the players should worry about is passing the song and impressing the judges.
Check out the tournament thread for more info and to see how others are/have run their tournaments. _________________
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DJX Trick Member
Joined: 30 Jun 2003 Location: CA |
5. Posted: Mon May 24, 2004 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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If you want to go with freestyle, basically you're going to have to have judges, and it's going to be a subjective judging system because there is no built in feature to see how well players can actually dance.
If you are going to do a PA (accuracy) tournament, you should use some kind of system based on step types. *NEVER* use score, because it is a bit less indicative of actual performance (since the end of a song is worth more in score than the beginning). I would say either go with the dance point system, or else use the 10K Commotion system (2 points for each perfect, 1 point for each great and OK, no negative points). I think the latter is better because it puts less weight on OKs, which I really think should be worth less than perfect, and it just makes life simpler since there are no negatives. _________________
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lildrchris25 Trick Member
Joined: 24 Jan 2002 Location: Houston, TX |
6. Posted: Mon May 24, 2004 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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I wrote a guide about this entire thing on my site. Link is in my sig. _________________
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Crux Basic Member
Joined: 22 May 2004
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7. Posted: Tue May 25, 2004 3:16 am Post subject: |
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I like blues idea, it seems it should work out for the best. But having a good score doesn't necesarily mean they are better than someone else. You should try to score based on routine as well. Not sure how you would do that, be creative! |
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