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Sixfortyfive Trick Member
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560. Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2004 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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There are 2 PC releases for PIU that are pretty good, and they are both direct arcade ports:
Perfect Collection (6th Korean mix)
PREX 3 (4th International mix)
If you want details about compatibility issues, check out the forums at www.pumpxtreme.net. |
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whitewulfe Trick Member
Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Location: Red Deer, Alberta, Canada |
561. Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 7:25 am Post subject: |
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Sixfortyfive wrote: | There are 2 PC releases for PIU that are pretty good, and they are both direct arcade ports:
Perfect Collection (6th Korean mix)
PREX 3 (4th International mix)
If you want details about compatibility issues, check out the forums at www.pumpxtreme.net. |
First off, thanks for the info... Second, I'll take my comments back about few songs... It would seem that YesAsia's description of PREX3 (19 korean songs and 6 american) is wrong, cuz I can pull up a songlist over at Red Octane...
I know this question would probably work better in the soft pad forum (if it still exists after the Apr 1 delete-fest), but are the pads in this bundle ( http://secure.pumprevolution.com/cart/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=35 )decent, or would you guys recommend just getting Cobalt Flux pads, seeing that I'm in the market for metal DDR pads? The CF pads would allow both PIU and DDR, but one question remains (besides why are they so expensive - I can get two RO metals with shipping for almost the same price) - will the CF pads work (with USB adapters) with PIU? _________________
Six hours straight of ddr is only insane if you lack a twelve pack of mountain dew... |
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prozac Trick Member
Joined: 24 Jan 2002 Location: Central Texas |
562. Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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My PIU vids - halfway down the page
For those interested in seeing what one can do on Pump.
Or if you're bored, watch some of the comedy freestyles I've done on DDR - all on the same webpage. _________________
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EinhanderPilot Basic Member
Joined: 06 Mar 2004
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563. Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 8:03 am Post subject: ! |
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At least it's better that what i can do. Nice prozac |
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whitewulfe Trick Member
Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Location: Red Deer, Alberta, Canada |
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ChaoTiC-oNe Trick Member
Joined: 11 Oct 2003 Location: Long Island |
565. Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2004 8:46 am Post subject: |
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does anyone know the song count for EXCEED? i look all over the web for the count, but couldnt find it. _________________
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Tsuri Trick Member
Joined: 14 Oct 2003 Location: Grand Rapids, MI |
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EinhanderPilot Basic Member
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567. Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2004 7:49 am Post subject: ! |
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^^^^^
Awesome. |
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zero2dash Trick Member
Joined: 18 Jan 2004 Location: St. Louis, MO USA |
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tatsujinn Basic Member
Joined: 23 Apr 2004
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569. Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 3:38 am Post subject: |
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PIU is great. mostly cause Naoki < Banya. Banya is absolutly fantastic. but the steps in PIU are significantly harder than in DDR _________________
Mitsu to Tsuba
I just 0wn3d a dog at 60 m.p.h. |
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Scion626 Basic Member
Joined: 27 Mar 2004 Location: Texas |
570. Posted: Sat May 01, 2004 8:55 pm Post subject: P.i.u. |
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Pump is just a better game (if you have an all around taste thingy...) _________________
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Tsuri Trick Member
Joined: 14 Oct 2003 Location: Grand Rapids, MI |
571. Posted: Wed May 05, 2004 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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zero2dash wrote: | I've started playing PIU more than DDR lately, surprisingly. My arcade has OBG I think, at least the marquee says that but it might actually have The Premiere 2nd. (Hopefully they upgrade to Exceed.) Anyway - I've noticed lately that Pump is just more fun of a game to play than DDR; even though I'm not playing insanely hard songs yet (I'm a Heavy player in DDR and I've passed quite a few 10s, but in Pump right now I play Hard mode and I'm around a 6-7 level skill) but the game is more fun. I don't know if it's because a) it's different, b) the movements are more realistic and non-cortorting, or c) the music and anime or d) all the above - but I'm having a lot more fun with Pump. I never thought I'd like Pump nearly as much as I like DDR, but Pump is quickly surpassing my level of enjoyment. Last week I went straight to the Pump machine and didn't even give the Extreme machine a glare; I think I played a good 20 games of Pump to 3 games of Extreme. Heh heh yay for Pump |
If it really is Premiere 2 (the one with Division mode) you may want to hold off on Exceed... because Premiere 2 has a lot of good songs on it... and with Exceed there are those that like the songlist and others who bash it just because it isn't 100% Korean songs... (their loss I guess) but Premiere 2 is great.... oh and if it is Premiere 2... you may want to give Division mode a try |
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ISH (Bemani Freak) Trick Member
Joined: 21 Jun 2002 Location: Baltimore city,MD |
572. Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 11:36 am Post subject: |
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Does anyone know how to change the arrow speed for Prex3 for pc? THX _________________
Katsucon 9.1
" The convention for the snowed in generation"
Ryu- " I would trade you my DDR skills to be as good as you in Pop'n". |
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CryptopsyBodom Trick Member
Joined: 16 Oct 2003 Location: Mifflin County, PA |
573. Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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ISH (Bemani Freak) wrote: | Does anyone know how to change the arrow speed for Prex3 for pc? THX |
press 2 when the song starts |
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Tekked Trick Member
Joined: 05 Sep 2003 Location: Enigma 100% |
574. Posted: Mon May 24, 2004 3:23 am Post subject: |
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Pardon me if the stuff I'm saying has been said a long time ago. I started playing pump a bit ago, so here's my examination and review:
I played PIU for the 6th time ever yesterday and beat an 11 by raping the bar. Its a pretty easy game if you do that I can still play crazy mode without raping the bar, though. Also, it seems that PIU's perfect window is gaping compared to DDR. I got no greats on a song without even trying, which is something I need to do for DDR. Also, I know DDR has its share of anthems played over and over again, but it seems that PIU's songlist revolves solely around those upbeat classical song remixes Banya churns out. It is impossible to go to an arcade and not hear them. But the sad thing is you'll want to play them too, because none of the other songs are that outstanding.
Okay, now I have a question.
I'm not familiar with Pump's menus and frankly, they suck. If I'm playing with a friend, how do they choose a different difficulty than me? I know its possible because only a complete idiot would decide to make it so you can only play one difficulty at a time. I mean, DDR's menu navigation is almost idiot-proof but PIU's menus are like it WANTS to be a cult game. _________________
Just because it makes sense...does that really make it true? |
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Tsuri Trick Member
Joined: 14 Oct 2003 Location: Grand Rapids, MI |
575. Posted: Mon May 24, 2004 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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Tekked wrote: | Pardon me if the stuff I'm saying has been said a long time ago. I started playing pump a bit ago, so here's my examination and review:
I played PIU for the 6th time ever yesterday and beat an 11 by raping the bar. Its a pretty easy game if you do that I can still play crazy mode without raping the bar, though. Also, it seems that PIU's perfect window is gaping compared to DDR. I got no greats on a song without even trying, which is something I need to do for DDR. Also, I know DDR has its share of anthems played over and over again, but it seems that PIU's songlist revolves solely around those upbeat classical song remixes Banya churns out. It is impossible to go to an arcade and not hear them. But the sad thing is you'll want to play them too, because none of the other songs are that outstanding.
Okay, now I have a question.
I'm not familiar with Pump's menus and frankly, they suck. If I'm playing with a friend, how do they choose a different difficulty than me? I know its possible because only a complete idiot would decide to make it so you can only play one difficulty at a time. I mean, DDR's menu navigation is almost idiot-proof but PIU's menus are like it WANTS to be a cult game. |
That opinion all depends on what mix you were playing
PIU doesn't have a set step window like DDR - it's up to the arcade operator - for all you know it was set on easy...
bar rape? I dare you to bar rape while playing Slam on Crazy... lol
No one plays those classical remixes much around here anymore.... the Duex songs are better... the Dj Doc songs are better... the other Banya stuff is more interesting... if your playing an old mix I can understand Crazy mode being easy... but keep in mind your comparing it to newer versions of DDR.
Songs you should try :
Point Break - the classical remix hated by most people.. .relatively easy
Swing Baby - Gallop city... but not the weak kind...
Love is a Danger Zone - All Wild Division - this... hurts...
and I could suggest a lot more songs but it all depends on the version your playing.
Division allows two different difficulties but it's only on one international mix... it allows you to change difficulty during the song...
I assume Andamiro didn't allow two different difficulties on old mixes just to keep players learning on the same level or what not... but usually do you play with people who can't handle what you play?
DDRs menu idiot proof? I don't think so... I saw people fiddle around with it for quite awhile wondering how to access 2x speed and whatnot... holding start isn't obvious at first... nor is it possible for a newbie to sort the song list easily... with all those directions in Japanese what good does it do them?
Point being, nothing is perfect... not even your favorite game no matter how perfect you think it is... it isn't perfect... you just happen to be used to DDR and probably didn't search through much of the songlist if you think those classical remixes are the only thing to play.... unless your playing 1st or 2nd mix in which case anyone could compare the 1st and 2nd DDR and say the same thing... not much to play. |
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Tekked Trick Member
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576. Posted: Tue May 25, 2004 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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I was playing Exceed. I'm comparing the latest Pump to the latest DDR.
And yes, those classical remixes are whored without remorse. When I go to the arcade the 100 songlist is cut down to about 6 or 7. Its kind of sad.
And when I say idiot proof I mean that it at least lets you have your own difficulty when playing two player and they let you know it. It shoves a difficulty selection right in your face at the beginning, so its hard to miss compared to the non-existent one in Pump.
I usually do play with people not at my level a.k.a my sister.
The point is, PIU's menus are just not as convienent as DDR's menu's. Period. I don't care how much you love Pump over DDR, once you know how to navigate both, it is still easier to hold the start button and pick your mods by hand then having to enter codes on the pads that flip you through channels and you can't even check to make sure are entered correctly until you start the song. Two players can play at their own levels in DDR. In Pump, you can't. Am I saying this alone makes DDR a better game? No. PIU could be a thousand times more fun than DDR but the point is that its facade makes you think it doesn't want to be played because its so damn hard to get what you want. And thats a problem that should have been fixed a long time ago is all that I'm saying. PIU could be more advanced than DDR in steps, songs, and fun, but its unbelievable that its menus are still stone-age.
So, is there a way to get the damn difficulty different for my sister? _________________
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Sexual Chocolate! Trick Member
Joined: 10 Jun 2002 Location: Wilmington, DE |
577. Posted: Tue May 25, 2004 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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While I tend to prefer Pump to DDR, I have to agree with Tekked. They seriously need to do something about their options menus. It is a pain to enter a code and THEN cancel out of a song because the end result of them (well, the speed one at least) results in the choosing of a song.
I also do hate the lack of the option for seperate difficulties. Most of the time, Im the only one that can do the Crazies that I try to do (in my area anyways) so its annoying to be dragged down by someone that cant keep up. Honestly, Im sure that they can relate when the shoe is on the other foot.
Before DDR had the menu select option, I refrained from entering ANY codes. When SSR was played, I always had to ask someone to enter the Vivid code for me because I never bothered to remember it.
In summation, I honestly dont believe that he is playing favorites here. Though I must say that Im amazed that you feel any crazy can be done by holding the bar. From my experience with the game, that couldnt be further from the truth. But as for the other comments, I agree 100%. _________________
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Tsuri Trick Member
Joined: 14 Oct 2003 Location: Grand Rapids, MI |
578. Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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Tekked wrote: | I was playing Exceed. I'm comparing the latest Pump to the latest DDR.
And yes, those classical remixes are whored without remorse. When I go to the arcade the 100 songlist is cut down to about 6 or 7. Its kind of sad.
And when I say idiot proof I mean that it at least lets you have your own difficulty when playing two player and they let you know it. It shoves a difficulty selection right in your face at the beginning, so its hard to miss compared to the non-existent one in Pump.
I usually do play with people not at my level a.k.a my sister.
The point is, PIU's menus are just not as convienent as DDR's menu's. Period. I don't care how much you love Pump over DDR, once you know how to navigate both, it is still easier to hold the start button and pick your mods by hand then having to enter codes on the pads that flip you through channels and you can't even check to make sure are entered correctly until you start the song. Two players can play at their own levels in DDR. In Pump, you can't. Am I saying this alone makes DDR a better game? No. PIU could be a thousand times more fun than DDR but the point is that its facade makes you think it doesn't want to be played because its so damn hard to get what you want. And thats a problem that should have been fixed a long time ago is all that I'm saying. PIU could be more advanced than DDR in steps, songs, and fun, but its unbelievable that its menus are still stone-age.
So, is there a way to get the damn difficulty different for my sister? |
I like Exceeds songlist but can't say the menu looks user friendly.. I haven't played Exceed yet... but on Premiere 2 the speed up code was simple (usually the codes are all on a sticker on the machine near the coin door depends on the arcade though) and Premiere 2 did shove a menu in your face to select the mode of play... but not for both sides, Division was for that. Premiere 2 was the last mix to display a mode select screen.. after that... it was replaced with cycling through the modes with the top arrows... featured on the mix before Rebirth - Extra... the Extra game engine was reused until Exceed.
Premiere 2 -
Easy mode
Hard Mode
Crazy Mode
Division Mode
Half Double
Double
Division would allow your sister to play Normal while you upped the difficulty by pressing Ws (which change the gameplay to Wild style) this is what Andamiro should have expanded on but they got rid of the mode... it actually allowed you to change modes during the song, it had text at the bottom of the screen telling you when the next check point was that allowed you to change to Wild (W) or Groove (G) style pressing no letters kept you in Normal mode - letters didn't count toward the combo or as a miss or anything, they just changed the style of play you were on... and in many cases Division mode was harder than Crazy.... too bad they didn't expand on it.
if Exceed appears easy to you in terms of step timing have an arcade worker change the difficulty settings... if they will that is... I have not played Exceed so can't say much for it's game engine... but I know it's similar to Extras game engine.
My guess for the reason they don't allow seperate difficulties now is because they want it to be a same boat situation... most players who play PIU play Freestyle or Nightmare mode anyway which involve both pads... I hardly ever play with anyone else. If these newer mixes expanded on Division mode then I would but thats not gonna happen....
People overplaying classical remixes in your area? What was the point of them upgrading to Exceed then? The K-Pop and Pop wheels have much better songs in them... not that I hate classical remixes.... I just tire of people playing them... specifically the ones that don't try anything else... why pay $1 or 75 cents to play Winter 100 times? Especially when great songs like We Are by Deux are on there... thats it they should make a song statistics screen showing how many times a specific song is played. |
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prozac Trick Member
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579. Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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PIU is easier than DDR?
Try playing Prex3/Exceed Nightmare songs with like Will O The Wisp & Get the Party Started. Or if you have Exceed, try Dignity on Crazy/Nightmare. Just try any nightmare/crazy songs that are lvl 14 or higher, you'll see the challenge.
Here's some good examples of OMFG steps that DDR can't even match (unless you play ITG or F'd up SM songs):
Final Audition Episode 1 Nightmare
Dignity Crazy
I've reverted to playing PIU almost all the time now because it constantly stays fresh in the challenge department. And if you get bored with the steps, turn on random doubles/freestyle mode. Mmm, leg splits galore. I love doing Another Truth Freestyle Random. _________________
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