When did DDR "Jump the Shark?"

Mr. A · Trick Member Joined: 20 Oct 2003 Location: INTERNET

Was there ever a point in the DDR series at which you think the game "Jumped the Shark?" (A point where the series began to fail/decline?)

A few possible things I can think of:
- Never jumped
- Jumped from day 1
- Solo
- Looooong versions (Oops I Did it Again, Hot Limit)
- DDR Max
- Captain Jack
- Not enough Captain Jack
- DDR Max 2
--- Oni
--- Little Boy: Boy ON Boy remix typo
--- Secret Rendez-Vous
- Irritating announcers
- Beginner Mode
- Knock-offs (Stepmania, DWI, Pump)
- Ultramix for X-Box
- Freeze Arrows
- Way too many remixes (Paranoias, Maxes, etc.)
- "Three Charactar" songs (B4U, D2R)
- Bag

Oolong · Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 3:05 pm Post subject:

it hasn't jumped the shark yet. things like long version and ultramix were certainly mistakes, but not enuogh to cause the downfall of the series.

i think i may be the only person in the world who likes Secret Rendez-vous (and Let them Move, and Love This Feelin'...)
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6th mix.
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Mr. A · Trick Member Joined: 20 Oct 2003 Location: INTERNET

6th Mix wasn't great. I played it at the arcade for the first time yesterday (drove 100 miles to Sharon) and it kinda sucked.

Beginner, in my opinion, REALLY over-handicaps the game's difficulty. If you want to learn how to play, I think you should start on 1/2/3 foor light songs. Something about 4-year olds slamming on the pads on beginner, and passing, kinda irks me. The game isn't for toddlers who can't follow instructions.

Oolong · Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 3:14 pm Post subject:

well, beginner mode was obviously created for people who aren't serious about playing the game and just want to try it once or twice. and it's not really cool to deny someone that privilege just because they aren't willing to try harder stuff.
6th mix is max, right? it was cool when it came out, but it's a little dated now. i thought the new scoring system introduced along with it was pretty innovative and a lot better than the prior one.
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DJX · Trick Member Joined: 30 Jun 2003 Location: CA

Lol, good topic...and a good question.

1) Hasn't
2) DDR Max2 (must crank out another one, fast!)
3) DDR Extreme (quantity over quality liek wuht!)
4) DS Disney Rave (i like it, but it was too much of an attempt to go mainstream)
5) Max. (period), Paranoia -Respect-, Outer Limits (taking 10-footers to an unnessecary level)
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GR · Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 3:59 pm Post subject:

Although I like Konamix (SIX ARROWS, BABY!), it does seem to mark the downfall of DDR's purity.
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Slowpoke · Trick Member Joined: 28 Oct 2003

Before I even saw the choices, I was gonna say "Ultramix"... but since I can pretend it doesn't exist, it doesn't bother me.

kmfdm · Trick Member Joined: 05 Mar 2004 Location: New York

I really don't know why everyone hates Ultramix so much...it's just another game, and it's got some great songs. Castles in the Sky, MGS2, Ready Steady Go, etc. Good exclusives, that's for sure.

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Zukin-Man · Trick Member Joined: 25 Nov 2002 Location: War Agony

I think it all started with Max. The new interface probably scared some people off who were too attached to the old-school style.

Too many remixes of the same song(s) probably had something to do with it too, especially ones that were made more for difficulty purposes than for listening quality, like PARANOiA survivor. PSM is even worse. Twenty more BPM and an extra ten seconds shouldn't qualify as a whole new remix.

Something I've noticed amongst some of my friends: Some people play solely to outdo each other in AAA's and such. This causes other people to get fed up with others and quit, because there was a time when people played just because it was fun. When superiority became an issue, there was just too much tension between people and some quit.

And yes, I like Secret Rendez-vous, Let Them Move, and Love This Feelin'. LTF is a great song to blast in the car.
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Mr. A · Trick Member Joined: 20 Oct 2003 Location: INTERNET

I know some people who are the ultra-competitive type in DDR, and they tend to be creepy as hell. Like when one calls me up, I thought it was just kinda to shoot the breeze/chat, and they end up agressievely lecturing me about the game, chided me for playing doubles, etcetera... sheesh. That kinda irked me.

yyr · Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 10:48 am Post subject:

Personally, I don't find ten-footers all that fun. So I don't play them that much.

I don't think DDR has jumped the shark yet. Half the possible reasons listed above, I don't agree with (DDRMAX?! 6th MIX?! The version with the most enjoyable list of new songs, ever?! Are you crazy?!) and the other half wasn't forced on anybody (you don't have to play Long Versions or Ultramix if you don't want to, for example).

Personally at this point I think the worst thing that could happen to the series is another whole year going by without the announcement of a new arcade version. Unfortunately, I also think that's a likely scenario. Oh well.

~yyr
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I'm talking about the whole game in general, particularly in scoring and backgrounds.
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[GA] Gunslinger Jetz · Trick Member Joined: 08 Jan 2003

Jumped the Shark yet?

U.S. = No yet.

Japan = Most definitely yes

I don't think DDR is done for in Japan, I think DDR is going to be completely remade with a new look and cabinet. DDR is just taking a break for awhile.

Mart · Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 3:59 pm Post subject:

Well, if it jumped the shark...

I'd say it is due to the constantly-increasing difficulty coefficient of the omfg-uber-fast-and-r0x0r-10-footers. They're going to levels that are not even gonna be humanly passable. It's almost like a BPM-Race, or something. Watch the next max going to 400BPM and peaking at 800BPM or something... don't you just see how needless this insanity is?
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