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I went to home depot, and 22 Gauge is too hard to cut?

Can I use aluminimum sheet metal? Because it's easy to cut and stuff. Do you think it will be okay? Or do I HAVE to get non-aluminimum sheet metal? What are some of the disadvantages of using aluminimum sheet metal?

The 3' by 2' 26 guage sheet metal is kjinda easy to cut too.. But its _20_ bucks.. Buying online is not an option, so what do you think I should do?
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sexualsoybean wrote:
I went to home depot, and 22 Gauge is too hard to cut?

Can I use aluminimum sheet metal? Because it's easy to cut and stuff. Do you think it will be okay? Or do I HAVE to get non-aluminimum sheet metal? What are some of the disadvantages of using aluminimum sheet metal?

The 3' by 2' 26 guage sheet metal is kjinda easy to cut too.. But its _20_ bucks.. Buying online is not an option, so what do you think I should do?


I'd try to get the highest gauge possible that you can afford. I bought 30 gauge sheet metal and it wasn't all that difficult to cut for 6 panels with tin snips. I wouldn't suggest aluminum being that it wouldn't be as durable, but it would be better than aluminum foil. Why wouldn't buying online be an option? A 3' x 2' 30 gauge = $6. I have no clue why prices are so high for pieces of lower gauges. But the higher you go, the more durable it'll make your pad in the long run.
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hey, 1st of all wud like 2 apologize if this has already been posted, i looked through n havnt seen it so yeah..

ok, been savin up n was wondering about the bns metal ddr pad..has any1 tried it, or know how they are? reliability, is it worth it, etc etc.

thx alot for ne1 who cud give me a response
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sexualsoybean wrote:
I went to home depot, and 22 Gauge is too hard to cut?

Can I use aluminimum sheet metal? Because it's easy to cut and stuff. Do you think it will be okay? Or do I HAVE to get non-aluminimum sheet metal? What are some of the disadvantages of using aluminimum sheet metal?

The 3' by 2' 26 guage sheet metal is kjinda easy to cut too.. But its _20_ bucks.. Buying online is not an option, so what do you think I should do?


I'd try to get the highest gauge possible that you can afford. I bought 30 gauge sheet metal and it wasn't all that difficult to cut for 6 panels with tin snips. I wouldn't suggest aluminum being that it wouldn't be as durable, but it would be better than aluminum foil. Why wouldn't buying online be an option? A 3' x 2' 30 gauge = $6. I have no clue why prices are so high for pieces of lower gauges. But the higher you go, the more durable it'll make your pad in the long run.


some interesting info for u: the higher gauge number u go, the thinner the metal is.

so wouldn't the lower gauge metal be more durable? plus ur reaction time will increase a tiny bit too it the sheet metal is thick enough E4.gif
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speedy1234 wrote:
hey, 1st of all wud like 2 apologize if this has already been posted, i looked through n havnt seen it so yeah..

ok, been savin up n was wondering about the bns metal ddr pad..has any1 tried it, or know how they are? reliability, is it worth it, etc etc.

thx alot for ne1 who cud give me a response


BNS is a good pad as long as you apply the sheet metal mod and they send you an actual BNS pad. Just recently, a person got a pad with different design and components and BNS claims it's the same pad. I'm not sure if that was a fluke or if thats the pad they are sending out now.

Sorry about the misinformation about gauge and thickness. If lower is thicker, then try the lower gauges. My only worry is it may be too responsive if the foam is unable to support the arrow from touching the contacts when its not being pressed.
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some questions about the judysdeals pad....
1. does anyone know if the "polycarbonate" arrows on the judysdeals pad crack? because my select arrow has a small crack on it when i first took it out of the shipping box
2. the duct tape that i used to stick the sheet metal onto the back of the arrows had sticky stuff on the side of the tape that wasn't supposed to be sticky. so sometimes when i press the arrows i heard this *pop* sound like when somethin sticky is pulled off of somethin that isn't. this is the duct tape sticking onto the foam and then being pulled off again by the arrow. will this do any harm to the pad?

thanks in advance for anyone who answers my questions! E4.gif
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vsamaco wrote:
speedy1234 wrote:
hey, 1st of all wud like 2 apologize if this has already been posted, i looked through n havnt seen it so yeah..

ok, been savin up n was wondering about the bns metal ddr pad..has any1 tried it, or know how they are? reliability, is it worth it, etc etc.

thx alot for ne1 who cud give me a response


BNS is a good pad as long as you apply the sheet metal mod and they send you an actual BNS pad. Just recently, a person got a pad with different design and components and BNS claims it's the same pad. I'm not sure if that was a fluke or if thats the pad they are sending out now.

Sorry about the misinformation about gauge and thickness. If lower is thicker, then try the lower gauges. My only worry is it may be too responsive if the foam is unable to support the arrow from touching the contacts when its not being pressed.


I had the same with mine. I receieved a CG control box, and my arrows have the design of the pics from the JudysDeal aunction pictures.. Same exact arrows. They arent the plain X and O arrows that BNS has, they're the green ones... I just hope that it's polycarbonate..
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Hey, I just got two metal pads for a little more than 300 dollars...is that good or what? Heres the link to them: http://store.yahoo.com/ddrgame/psdadaremeda.html
Tell me if its good or not.
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usamablackbelt wrote:
Hey, I just got two metal pads for a little more than 300 dollars...is that good or what? Heres the link to them: http://store.yahoo.com/ddrgame/psdadaremeda.html
Tell me if its good or not.


Its not great due to the acrylic arrows. And I believe similar models are sold on ebay for $90-$100.
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damn, now i hafta buy the soft pads... frown.gif
can anyone find me a good metal pad for cheap? like around 150?
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what do u mean u have to buy soft pads? Didn't u just buy 2 metal pads? And I'm sorry, acrylic arrows don't instantly mean yout pad sux. This one has a frame around it so it seems strong. My pad doesn't have a metal frame around it but it seems solid to me. And if u have acrylic arrows, you can just replace them with poly-carbnate, so whats the big deal. Sure, if I had the choice between a pad with poly-carb arrows and acrylic arrows, I would pick the poly-carb but just because ur pad has acrylic arrows that doesn't mean it sux.......................................unless, of course, ur comparing it to a cobalt flux( I WANT ONE SOOO BAD!!!!!! laugh.gif )
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what do u mean u have to buy soft pads? Didn't u just buy 2 metal pads? And I'm sorry, acrylic arrows don't instantly mean yout pad sux. This one has a frame around it so it seems strong. My pad doesn't have a metal frame around it but it seems solid to me. And if u have acrylic arrows, you can just replace them with poly-carbnate, so whats the big deal. Sure, if I had the choice between a pad with poly-carb arrows and acrylic arrows, I would pick the poly-carb but just because ur pad has acrylic arrows that doesn't mean it sux.......................................unless, of course, ur comparing it to a cobalt flux( I WANT ONE SOOO BAD!!!!!! laugh.gif )


I don't recall saying the pad sux, tho I did say it isn't great. I agree that the pad still decent with acrylic arrows and is modded. But I think polycarbons do make a difference for durability overtime. You could switch the arrows, given that polycarbons will fit in the pad. Unfortunatley, I didn't have that option for my pads, due to different design. I'm not sure, but can anyone find a vendor for polycarbon arrows? I see ones for acrylic. There is the option of calling redoctane and buynshop to see if they'll willing to sell em.
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sexualsoybean wrote:
I went to home depot, and 22 Gauge is too hard to cut?

Can I use aluminimum sheet metal? Because it's easy to cut and stuff. Do you think it will be okay? Or do I HAVE to get non-aluminimum sheet metal? What are some of the disadvantages of using aluminimum sheet metal?

The 3' by 2' 26 guage sheet metal is kjinda easy to cut too.. But its _20_ bucks.. Buying online is not an option, so what do you think I should do?



I use the 30 guage for my pads. bends nicely and cuts just as easily. you can get it at HOME DEPOT for like $7 for a 2' x 4' sheet. So i believe you'd be ok with the 30. Some say the disadvantage is that the soldering is tricky but i found a way around that E4.gif the other disadvantage is the the bends arent as "tight" however it doenst seem to affect the pads.

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hey, ive been recently seeing ppl who have been receiving other products or buttons, boxes, etc from BNS..whats going on? is this with only SOME ppl or MOST..because im reconsidering buying the bns metal pad..thx for ur input
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What to you people think about the designs to make your own pads. i am leaning toward the myddrpad design but i just wanted to get some feedback.
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Today I finally decided that I might just get the CF only because I just read through this whole thread and the CF seems like its worth the money. For now I'll just save up.
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I go to Iowa State (well...for two more days, graduating Satuday, yay!), and I helped start a DDR club a year ago. Last semester we got funding from the GSB (Government Student Body) (we're an offical club of the university, has great benefits like this!). We used the funding for 2 Cobalt Flux pads.

They've been through a semester's worth of wear (played on 4-5 constant hours a week), and the only problem we've encountered is we had to get a replacement control box.

I'm glad that we got these pads, they're really great for the club (since before we've been using member's RedOctane Ignition 2.0s). The only think I don't like about them is they seem to be a little smaller than arcade sized. Especially for a big guy like me (I'm 6'7"), it's difficult to adjust, I don't perform as well on them.

Which leads to a question. I read the first post in this sticky, but I don't have much time to read through the 60 some pages, does anyone have more opinions on the RedOctane metal pads? Are they arcade sized? If they're not worth the money, I might stick with Ignition pads, those have been great to me
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Red Octane metal dance is worth the money. IT will be an improvement to the ignition pad. IT is arcade size in playabilty
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ngult wrote:
Red Octane metal dance is worth the money. IT will be an improvement to the ignition pad. IT is arcade size in playabilty


Excellent. Is there a weight limit to them? I Know regular "hard pads" don't have a ver high weight limit (150 or so). Seems like metal are more sturdy. I'm about 240 or so E10.gif
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Bahamut X wrote:
ngult wrote:
Red Octane metal dance is worth the money. IT will be an improvement to the ignition pad. IT is arcade size in playabilty


Excellent. Is there a weight limit to them? I Know regular "hard pads" don't have a ver high weight limit (150 or so). Seems like metal are more sturdy. I'm about 240 or so E10.gif


Supports up to 300 pds, so you shouldn't have any problems with it given that you maintain the pad. There are other metal pads that are comparable ie. BNS and ebay-judydeals. BNS is $148, judy $100. But recently BNS has been sending different parts/pad that *may* not be as durable. As for judy, its been said the arrows are polycarbon. If you don't want to take the risk, go with red octane.
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